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Post by toni on May 13, 2008 19:21:32 GMT -5
I'm freaking out today, and I need some help ID-ing this thing...I'm just not sure. I'm really wondering if this to you all looks like a fluke. It sort of does to me, but I'm not sure. This is 60X magnification And this sucker is 1/4 " long in length. Thank you.
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Post by curlypainter on May 13, 2008 19:40:11 GMT -5
Toni What is a fluke?
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Post by valerie on May 13, 2008 20:29:41 GMT -5
Toni--yes I think it does kindof
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Post by felixwillford on May 13, 2008 20:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by chaosonline on May 13, 2008 23:00:50 GMT -5
Toni, It looks very like a fluke I had. The only difference was that mine was a velvety blood red.
Karen
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Post by gradysghostii on May 14, 2008 8:42:55 GMT -5
To be honest, I think 98% of posts where people say they have photos of worms are in fact, not worms.
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Post by toni on May 14, 2008 11:33:55 GMT -5
I sure don't know, but thank you for your responses, and those "flat worms" sure look like this, cause the "sides" of my 'thing/specimen" are also like curled up like those great flat worm pics you've provided the link for Kmarie (Thank you!).
I wonder if they're 1/4" in length at anytime? I'll be sure checking these suckers out more in reading.
Grady, I know what you mean too. I think "all our critters" are secondary to our "contamination".
By the way Mr Toni's slippers outside got covered with gnats when he took them off and left them by the door so he could spray off the patio...well...they congregated onto his slippers, and not cause he was in them...but I saw then, that WE must be emitting a serious pheremone to be attracting critters of all kinds from our environment. Just my opinion/observation.
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Post by toni on May 14, 2008 11:34:47 GMT -5
Curlypainter,
A fluke is a Trematode, which is a "type of flatworm" too.
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Post by toni on May 14, 2008 11:46:11 GMT -5
Notice on the picture at the top, that white looking stuff along the one side of it? Well...now it looks like tiny little hairs doesn't it? 1/4" in length specimen from lesion yesterday. See those teeny tiny "what looks like alot of little hairs on the one side of it?" Weird huh?
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Post by toni on May 14, 2008 12:18:09 GMT -5
See those tiny little hairs along the side in the pic above? Scroll down, and you'll see them on this "thing"...I'm still not sure what this picture is of (with the hairs too). cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/platyhelminthes.htmCan you tell which it is, is it the planarian or the dugesia? They don't make it clear. Thank you.
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Post by belikewater on May 14, 2008 15:47:49 GMT -5
Your picture looks like a Demodex mite nymph curled up. The "hairs" are clear fibers.
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Post by Sidney on May 14, 2008 18:35:50 GMT -5
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Post by curlypainter on May 14, 2008 19:35:52 GMT -5
Toni Thank you for explaining.... I appreciate it.
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Post by belikewater on May 14, 2008 20:46:06 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Why do you insist on finding things beyond the obvious? 98% of people have Demodex mites. More in quantity with age and immuno compromise and hormonal changes. I believe most skin problems are linked with these. Demodex and bacteria they cary. You will find I am right.
I am treating myself with this in mind and I am doing well.
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Post by toni on May 14, 2008 21:14:11 GMT -5
I viewed my "critter" under a higher magnification on my other scope, and I could see the road map of red veins in it. And it's got like a "white" little "snowball" looking thing right under the 'chin' area. If that's the chin area Could be the other end for all I know. And I sure am no entomologist, but it looks to me like a member of the Platyhelminth family. But...I don't know beans about bugs. Only trying like the rest of us to match things by pictures. I'm going to send it off to someone who specializes in "Platy's" so we will see. Cause I've got to know if it's the last thing I do... you know, since this sucker came out of my facial lesion that I have been feeling wiggling around in my FACE for months now. I daily pick out approx 300 of it's eggs (every single day). I don't feel the wiggling around today, since I got the bastard (scuse me) out yesterday. Oh...it's been horrid! Feeling that thing moving around every day, I can't even tell you how much I wanted to cut out the side of my face! But now....(knock on wood) total relief! No movement. Thank GOD I got it out. I'll definately keep you posted in what I learn about this thing. And thank you all too for your input, cause man, this is sickening....and I know you understand.
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Post by gradysghostii on May 14, 2008 22:47:44 GMT -5
Wow Toni, you're tough, I'd be freaking at the freakers ball. Do let us know. But under your scope you saw no movement, strange, how can you feel all this movement in your face yet pull it out of you and no movement. I hear this alot which is why I don't believe these are alive. I sure wish you had the head of pin in the photo to give it scale, I know you said 1/4 inch but it's hard to envision.
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Post by cyn on May 15, 2008 0:30:35 GMT -5
It says that the Dugesia have the cilia on the side.
I am so happy for you Toni, I kinda know what you mean, except mine are so much larger, its not really a flip flop, more like a painful bulldozer. I would be real anxious to know if it has organs or if it was made by the disease, the red veins could be fiber right?
Did you read the part where the terrestrial planarians have the ability to regenerate? That means you can cut them up, they will put the pieces back together. this species looks so much like the shape of my fungus when it feels around inside my nose. They always have heads.
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Post by toni on May 15, 2008 9:04:59 GMT -5
Oh goodness Cyn, yes! I sure have read that, and wonder about those suckers too.
And the Dugesia only have the celia on one side?? Wow...I didn't find that, I missed it I guess. But if you have that handy I'd sure love to read that part. I really am interested in that "celia on one side"...and thank you.
I viewed it good yesterday, and yep, the celia is only on the one side. And the "veins"...they really are veins, not fibers, it was very apparent under higher magnification.
Grady,
First thanks for saying I'm tough. But truthfully, I am but I'm not. It becomes a matter of what's ( got ) to be done, cause these things I look at it like this...they are feeding on me...so I'm not going to allow them to get the best of me, and then it makes me mad that they're there, and I'm having to do this myself to get them out.
In fact, I'll tell you how hard it really is, because I do have to get it out of me, or I WILL FREAK out. I have to take little breaks while doing this...the dabbing and the lifting the things out with a needle when they rise up out of their tunnel. The short breaks I take, I just lean back, and beg GOD for help to continue...cause it's sooooo hard. Then I say outloud, GOD will NOT give me anything more than what I can handle. And...then I go back at it.
Believe me....it is hard, but because I do "believe", I then don't feel so alone when I'm extracting these things out of my skin. It is difficult..and the word difficult doesn't even come close to what I really mean. But...better out than in, is the bottom line.
I sure understand your question, about "how can I have so much movement, yet none from this sucker when I took it out".
I'm glad you asked so I can tell you why.
These things live deep in the skin. They make pin hole size tunnels that go VERY deep into the subQ.
Actually the holes (which I call the tunnel) looks to be the diameter of a paper clip width. So if you can envision a tunnel deeeeeep into the skin (like a paper clip was literally stuck down into the skin (and you can see this) because the top of the tunnel (at the surface of the skin) is like a funnel.
It's about 1/4" wide diameter (the tunnel) on top the skin, then you can actually look down into the skin, and just see this "tunnel".
Do you know what I mean? I'll draw it for the next post so you can see what I mean. Cause it's something.
The "things" I get out, appear dead, because the only way for me to get them out, is by dabbing the spot (tunnel) with cumin and antimicrobial, then the milk mix.
The "dabbing" causes like a plunger effect. Then the things rise up out of the tunnel...but they're dead, from the products I'm applying.
Otherwise they'd dig deeper. I've felt them dig deeper, and they cause the skin to bleed profusely, that is them getting away...and eating more into the meat!
Once the cumin mixed with the antimicrobial, or the milk and yogurt is applied, that kills them on contact.
Problem is I've found before when I was dabbing away on top the skin, sometimes caused them to dig deep to get away.
Well....I've fixed their wagon now!!! hehehehehe hahahaha
What I do now....after learning their behavior...is I take a finger full of cumin mixed with the gel (waterless antimicrobial hand sanitizer) and I first hold that over the lesion with my finger.
Now...they get no air...no nothing! They choke on it now! And it allows the microbial gel and ground cumin to "penetrate" into the tunnel by holding my finger over "their hole" (tunnel).
Then after a minute, then I tap tap tap (dab dab dab) the lesion, and that is what causes the stuff that's deep in the tunnel to rise up and out!
And daily I do this. That's how I get like 300 (what look like eggs) out a day. The tapping or dabbing with my finger over the lesion causes it to lift out of the deep tunnel.
Hope that makes sense.
And I'll take a pic next to salt and the needle too for the next post so you can get a good idea of how big this is...for something that's coming out of the skin/face.
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Post by toni on May 15, 2008 9:59:53 GMT -5
First I'll show this picture of this diagram of a (Dugesia) I think it is...from that article above. I know it's hard to "picture" these going from "drawings" as seen above in comparing a drawing to the real thing. So what I go on, is description...like the celia (little hairs on one side, features, etc) But see the celia (little hairs along only the one side?) That's just how my critter is too. Be back with the critter.
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Post by toni on May 15, 2008 10:13:01 GMT -5
Here's under 10X magnification I've got the critter next to salt granules and a needle, so if you can line up alot of salt granules, you'll see it's quite a critter to remove from the face.
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