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Post by toni on Sept 30, 2009 12:52:54 GMT -5
Oh, these adorable kitty pictures are doing me in! ;D
Violet your baby is soooo precious too.
Bannanny, yes, our black specks are SO much alike it's SCARY!
Jeany,
Yes, the ( glycolic cream ) I've raved about so many times is:
AHA. Alpha Hydroxy acid/glycolics, made from fruit acids.
Just to share this info, (since skin stuff was my bag before Morgs)..
MD Forte (not that I have ANY affiliation with them, not whatsoever) but I mention them alllll the time because their prices ARE THE BEST for what you get.
I know. I'm a shopper...and a smart shopper.
MD Forte Hand and Body Cream is 20% glycolic acid.
Can be used anywhere from head to toe. It only says hand
and body because of the 20% strength.
It tingles (like Retin A does) when you first begin to use it,
as the skin isn't conditioned, but it gets "acclamated" after a
few days of use. More is not better. Thin light film is all that's
needed. I use it daily. Always have, always will.
It's 26 or 28 bucks for a big fat giant tube of it.
That is the BEST deal going for that strength in a cream.
Here's something about using "homemade" AHA's.
You can only leave them on for a short short time, as they WILL
oxidize, and cause the skin to wrinkle (permanently). (lots I could go into there) but no need to.
They have no stabilizer in them or germicide either.
So, they can not only become "unstable" just from being
exposed to air which causes oxidation which is not good for
the skin at all, ..but they develop germs quickly
too.
If you're putting it on, then immediately washing it off, then
"homemade are fine". Just wanted to help give you tips.
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Post by violet on Sept 30, 2009 13:22:38 GMT -5
Thanks Jeany and Toni for the wonderful information on acids. I use Retin A, and I should be alternating it with glycolic acid. Need to start that again!
Glad you enjoy Sophie's glamor shot, Toni! :-) She is my precious little girl. She walks like a little ballerina, and she looks so innocent, but she is a rascal--just a real rascal. She likes to get up on places where she can slowly slide things off onto the floor. It is so funny. Even though she has broken a number of my decorative white pitchers (I LOVE white pitchers!), I just can't get upset with her. She does it for attention. Sometimes I'll hear her pushing something, then stopping and looking to see if I'm watching her, then she'll push it a little more, stop and look, a little more, stop and look...until it's either on the floor or until I come give her whatever it is she wants (usually her breakfast or dinner). At night she sleeps next to my face with at least one little paw on my arm or neck, having to touch me. Recently I alarmed her in the middle of the night and she jumped up and ran across my head, taking skin with her!! Later, she came and laid over my face while she made biscuits on my pillow... (Jeany, I never heard that term before you used it. It really is a great description of what they do--making biscuits!) :-)
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Post by jeany on Sept 30, 2009 13:57:18 GMT -5
well..here's a pic of Mikey! .JPG) |
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Post by violet on Sept 30, 2009 13:59:33 GMT -5
well..here's a pic of Mikey! Oh, Jeany! What a little love... :-) You have two beautiful kitties! Do Mikey and Meats get along together okay? |
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Post by jeany on Sept 30, 2009 15:06:39 GMT -5
Oh, these adorable kitty pictures are doing me in! ;D Violet your baby is soooo precious too. Bannanny, yes, our black specks are SO much alike it's SCARY! Jeany, Yes, the ( glycolic cream ) I've raved about so many times is: AHA. Alpha Hydroxy acid/glycolics, made from fruit acids. Just to share this info, (since skin stuff was my bag before Morgs).. MD Forte (not that I have ANY affiliation with them, not whatsoever) but I mention them alllll the time because their prices ARE THE BEST for what you get. I know. I'm a shopper...and a smart shopper. MD Forte Hand and Body Cream is 20% glycolic acid. Can be used anywhere from head to toe. It only says hand and body because of the 20% strength. It tingles (like Retin A does) when you first begin to use it, as the skin isn't conditioned, but it gets "acclamated" after a few days of use. More is not better. Thin light film is all that's needed. I use it daily. Always have, always will. It's 26 or 28 bucks for a big fat giant tube of it. That is the BEST deal going for that strength in a cream. Here's something about using "homemade" AHA's. You can only leave them on for a short short time, as they WILL oxidize, and cause the skin to wrinkle (permanently). (lots I could go into there) but no need to. They have no stabilizer in them or germicide either. So, they can not only become "unstable" just from being exposed to air which causes oxidation which is not good for the skin at all, ..but they develop germs quickly too. If you're putting it on, then immediately washing it off, then "homemade are fine". Just wanted to help give you tips. Hi Toni, thanks for the tips! .so..you've been using this? and have you noticed any improvement? Yes, it also said not to go out in to the sun shortly after applying, because it sort of causes an abrasion..forgot to mention this. Jeany |
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Post by kammy on Sept 30, 2009 15:38:03 GMT -5
Hydroxyl group Oh happy day, Jeany, thank you for your excellent research! I have struggled so long to find something that will stop or slow down this cloning, reproduction, or free radical polymerization process of the specks and debris from quickly occurring inside my outer ear. Nothing has seemed to work for me for very long. Yes, I've tried milk, papaya, aspirin, banana peels, peroxide, but not with any consistency, by not knowing for sure if something will work, I tend to move on too quickly. I'm wondering if eating a high concentration of these foods would help at the same time we are treating our lesions externally? I went to Walgreen's yesterday to buy something with hydroxyl in it and they didn't have anything and directed me to Macy's. It's been a while since I bought alpha hydroxy products and forgot that you have to have a prescription for it. The sales lady at Macy's mentioned that the cosmetic companies started making their versions and changed the name, but she didn't know to what? She mentioned a product with salicylic acid in it, I wasn't sure, but today see where that is in the group and might have been a better choice? I chose a (much too expensive) product by Clinique to stop the free radical process, which seemed to help a little bit, but, it is too early to tell. Free Radical Polymerization is what I have reported seeing as the process that is happening when viewing researcher Baraka's excellent YouTube movie on ''Morgellons Forming'', so it seems that the skin products designed to slow down or stop free radicals might also help? I will be trying various recipes around these hydroxyl groups and report what I find, possibly other folks will too? I'm thinking that since the top part of my ear is like one of those caterpillars in the movie we saw that is completely consumed with the capsids, that it will take more than one combination of these ingredients to heal me? I have often felt that I have lost my ear to this disease, I don't know if I will or can ever reclaim it away from this endless producing 'machine', so I make for a good guinea pig, I will report any successes. I think it interesting that my theory of fullerenes or buckeyballs being in the makeup of our Morgellons baculoviruses and some of the already known products to work on our lesions, such as papaya, milk, banana skins, peroxide, etc., are scientifically known to help? And, thanks for pointing out Toni, that gycholic acid is another name for AHA or alpha hydroxy acid. |
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Post by bannanny on Sept 30, 2009 17:30:22 GMT -5
I know anything with salicylic acid in it is good for us... I buy shampoos with it in it and it helps alot.
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Post by kammy on Sept 30, 2009 18:28:06 GMT -5
'Micky' and 'Meats' have not met yet. 'Micky' is in Bavaria and 'Meats' is in Atlanta, Jeany came to visit me this past summer. I don't want to bring anyone down but I guess it's ok to say, Jeany, that we believe that 'Micky' has Morgellons, he has been pretty sick lately? 'Meats' doesn't have obvious signs of it, but I think it is a matter of time with the way things are. 'Meats' is young and healthy, hopefully, this is a key in fighting this disease off? Isn't it a shame how our sweet, innocent pets are getting this disease, and our Vets are just as clueless as our medical professionals, it just doesn't seem fair?
I hope they aren't putting these baculovirus or fullerenes in the pet foods? We really need to start looking at the pet foods microscopically to see what they show?
We are being robbed of so much, this is such a pathetic state of affairs that a few have created for all of man and pet kind.
Possibly, the hydroxyl products/foods could help our pets, too? Does anyone else have a pet with 'M'?
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Post by kammy on Sept 30, 2009 19:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Sept 30, 2009 20:30:01 GMT -5
A most interesting photo that I get under searching on 'nanowhiskers' on the cover of Cambridge's Microscopic Microanalysis Magazine April 2009, doesn't give a description... looks just like my and Carnicom's carbon balls/blood cells?: www.cmca.uwa.edu.au/cmca/?f=249091Nanowhiskers below looks familiar...!! thm-a03.yimg.com/image/5a47b058e990c9da On the same website, www.nanoamor.com/inc/sdetail/21144 is a photo of Manganese(IV) Oxide Nanorods, epsilon: Water Treatment ''nanostructured products for waste-water treatment and water purification''  Wasn't there an image that resembled this above in Lymes Disease that's more on this scale? This looks strikingly similar to our black mystery fungus that we thought looked like Aspergillis Niger, from a human sample below at 450x:  |
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Post by jeany on Sept 30, 2009 21:43:35 GMT -5
I know anything with salicylic acid in it is good for us... I buy shampoos with it in it and it helps alot. Talking about shampoos..Here's one with AHA (natural fruit acids) in it..Thought it might be helpful for those who have scalp/hair problems...there is also conditioner, hair tonic..etc.  Jeany |
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Post by kammy on Sept 30, 2009 22:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by violet on Oct 1, 2009 11:27:44 GMT -5
'Micky' and 'Meats' have not met yet. 'Micky' is in Bavaria and 'Meats' is in Atlanta, Jeany came to visit me this past summer. I don't want to bring anyone down but I guess it's ok to say, Jeany, that we believe that 'Micky' has Morgellons, he has been pretty sick lately? 'Meats' doesn't have obvious signs of it, but I think it is a matter of time with the way things are. 'Meats' is young and healthy, hopefully, this is a key in fighting this disease off? Isn't it a shame how our sweet, innocent pets are getting this disease, and our Vets are just as clueless as our medical professionals, it just doesn't seem fair? I hope they aren't putting these baculovirus or fullerenes in the pet foods? We really need to start looking at the pet foods microscopically to see what they show? We are being robbed of so much, this is such a pathetic state of affairs that a few have created for all of man and pet kind. Possibly, the hydroxyl products/foods could help our pets, too? Does anyone else have a pet with 'M'? I'm so sorry about Mickey (Mikey?)... Jeany, what kinds of things do you find help him? Have you tried Witch Hazel? |
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Post by jeany on Oct 1, 2009 11:50:35 GMT -5
'Micky' and 'Meats' have not met yet. 'Micky' is in Bavaria and 'Meats' is in Atlanta, Jeany came to visit me this past summer. I don't want to bring anyone down but I guess it's ok to say, Jeany, that we believe that 'Micky' has Morgellons, he has been pretty sick lately? 'Meats' doesn't have obvious signs of it, but I think it is a matter of time with the way things are. 'Meats' is young and healthy, hopefully, this is a key in fighting this disease off? Isn't it a shame how our sweet, innocent pets are getting this disease, and our Vets are just as clueless as our medical professionals, it just doesn't seem fair? I hope they aren't putting these baculovirus or fullerenes in the pet foods? We really need to start looking at the pet foods microscopically to see what they show? We are being robbed of so much, this is such a pathetic state of affairs that a few have created for all of man and pet kind. Possibly, the hydroxyl products/foods could help our pets, too? Does anyone else have a pet with 'M'? I'm so sorry about Mickey (Mikey?)... Jeany, what kinds of things do you find help him? Have you tried Witch Hazel? Hi Violet...well Mikey isn't doing that good at the moment..my daughter brought him to the vet and he said that Mikey has a type of blood parasites about 30% of cats can somewhere catch up? I thought..hmm..blood parasites? They 'eat' red blood cells..so his HB titers are too low and his kidneys aren't working properly either. But that's a very good Vet and Mikey is getting shots..antibiotics to kill the parasites..iron for production of red cells.. and special food..My daughter was very upset about all this..of course me too..but she told me he's doing better...so we're glad..I'm not sure if he has M..looks suspicious though..It was about that time where my cat was very sick and showed the same symptoms as my M broke out..I was thinking if it has something to do with it? The vet we took him to at that time didn't find out what was wrong..but eventually Mikey got better after a while too, but still lost alot of hair and was itching real bad. I put some DE on his fur..that helped for a while. All in all..I think he will recover..My daughter moved out and took him along. I couldn't keep him anymore. Every time he jumped on my lap or even got near me I started to itch all over and my skin turned red hot and burned like fire. The derm said I'm allergic to cats?..hmm..I'm not allergic to Meats..?? Let's hope it's not M.. I'm not sure what witch hazel is, Violet. Need to look that up..Thanks for the tip! Jeany |
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Post by violet on Oct 1, 2009 14:56:59 GMT -5
I'm so sorry about Mickey (Mikey?)... Jeany, what kinds of things do you find help him? Have you tried Witch Hazel? Hi Violet...well Mikey isn't doing that good at the moment..my daughter brought him to the vet and he said that Mikey has a type of blood parasites about 30% of cats can somewhere catch up? I thought..hmm..blood parasites? They 'eat' red blood cells..so his HB titers are too low and his kidneys aren't working properly either. But that's a very good Vet and Mikey is getting shots..antibiotics to kill the parasites..iron for production of red cells.. and special food..My daughter was very upset about all this..of course me too..but she told me he's doing better...so we're glad..I'm not sure if he has M..looks suspicious though..It was about that time where my cat was very sick and showed the same symptoms as my M broke out..I was thinking if it has something to do with it? The vet we took him to at that time didn't find out what was wrong..but eventually Mikey got better after a while too, but still lost alot of hair and was itching real bad. I put some DE on his fur..that helped for a while. All in all..I think he will recover..My daughter moved out and took him along. I couldn't keep him anymore. Every time he jumped on my lap or even got near me I started to itch all over and my skin turned red hot and burned like fire. The derm said I'm allergic to cats?..hmm..I'm not allergic to Meats..?? Let's hope it's not M.. I'm not sure what witch hazel is, Violet. Need to look that up..Thanks for the tip! Jeany I'm so glad to hear he is being treated and that things sound positive, Jeany. Witch Hazel is sold here in the States next to rubbing alcohol in the grocery or drug stores. It is an herb essence in alcohol that soothes burns and itches. Often used as a toner for women and an after-shave for men, FYI. Good stuff!! |
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Post by jeany on Oct 1, 2009 17:43:24 GMT -5
Hi Violet...well Mikey isn't doing that good at the moment..my daughter brought him to the vet and he said that Mikey has a type of blood parasites about 30% of cats can somewhere catch up? I thought..hmm..blood parasites? They 'eat' red blood cells..so his HB titers are too low and his kidneys aren't working properly either. But that's a very good Vet and Mikey is getting shots..antibiotics to kill the parasites..iron for production of red cells.. and special food..My daughter was very upset about all this..of course me too..but she told me he's doing better...so we're glad..I'm not sure if he has M..looks suspicious though..It was about that time where my cat was very sick and showed the same symptoms as my M broke out..I was thinking if it has something to do with it? The vet we took him to at that time didn't find out what was wrong..but eventually Mikey got better after a while too, but still lost alot of hair and was itching real bad. I put some DE on his fur..that helped for a while. All in all..I think he will recover..My daughter moved out and took him along. I couldn't keep him anymore. Every time he jumped on my lap or even got near me I started to itch all over and my skin turned red hot and burned like fire. The derm said I'm allergic to cats?..hmm..I'm not allergic to Meats..?? Let's hope it's not M.. I'm not sure what witch hazel is, Violet. Need to look that up..Thanks for the tip! Jeany I'm so glad to hear he is being treated and that things sound positive, Jeany. Witch Hazel is sold here in the States next to rubbing alcohol in the grocery or drug stores. It is an herb essence in alcohol that soothes burns and itches. Often used as a toner for women and an after-shave for men, FYI. Good stuff!! why..thank you Violet...maybe I should get some while I'm here..I guess we don't have that stuff over in Germany..never heard of it...it'll be worth a try..that's for sure! Jeany |
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Post by kammy on Oct 3, 2009 14:28:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry kam... I still don't know the difference between baculovirus, fullerene's, PA, you name it... I'm lost. But I sure know a sweet face when I see it and Mee-aats has one of the best! What a cutie pie! I'd never be able to resist that... hugs ~~ bannanny Yes, Banny, I understand your confusion, we're confused too... ;D I have often stated that I am seeing more than one sphere and have not been able to positively identify all of them yet. Until more researchers start culturing lesion debris to see what they produce and comparisons made... we will be at a standstill. All we can do is go from from what we believe we are seeing and from what few factual scientific tests that we can get from our doctors and continue to information share. We know from my friend (Exp. 2) who contracted evident Morgellons after doctoring my ear lesion that she was positively diagnosed with EC. I had an ear culture done in which they said nothing cultured which I find strange in that I can easily get cultured growth to appear immediately in the Petri Dish when I do a culture?  We read where they used the bacterial spheres of EC and PA as the capsid holders for the earlier baculoviral expressions. Some of us have been diagnosed with EC or PA. I am not sure that these particular bacteria are not being shown in my photographs? Possibly, we should look at Experiment 2's photographs to see if we can identify what is the EC component and try to match that with other photos in different experiments? We can see the evident carbon aspects in the photos leading us to believe that by these, solely being by definition, are related to nanomaterials. What makes Morgellons confusing is that we are seeing a variety of pathogens. To simplify a complicated disease, we have to look at what we all have in common. We all may or may not have EC or PA as a 100 percent part of our disease? I would suspect that if we did, we would already be well aware of this easily tested for aspect? The baculovirus is called an expression because it can be expressed in different ways. They can use a bacteria or a carbon entity... and no telling what else to house (capsid) it. We have reason to believe that the carbon is involved in 100 percent of Morgellons, it is a part of the GM process, we are not sure about PA or EC, specifically. This might be something that we might get tested for and information share what we find? |
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Post by kammy on Oct 3, 2009 14:56:16 GMT -5
What we are trying to do is based on what facts we have, look to see what has most likely happened. We are attempting to look at the variables and paint a most likely scenario picture of what's happened to us, something that when the scientists that were creating these products should have done to begin with, before loosing their creations. To further complicate our disease, we believe that agrobacterium is also 100 percent a part. And, if we look hard enough we can probably see that herbicides are too? We know that testing the various herbicidal brands in combination has not been done, we can likely assume that by introducing a foreign carbon life form into the human body and testing of all the various herbicides has not been done either? I did see in researching that 3 herbicides have been studied in conjunction with carbon: tinyurl.com/yadboh4 |
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Post by jeany on Oct 4, 2009 6:40:17 GMT -5
Hey Violet..omg!..l laughed sooo much this morning..it was about 5 a.m. and I woke up cuz Meats was lying next to me purring real loud. I looked at him and he was making biscuits again..and suddenly your comment came into my mind about how your cat was making a 'loaf of bread'..boy..I was just cracking up...was imagining how she did that..too funny..I kept laughing on and on..until I was ready to get up!! Thanks for the good laugh, Violet..too cute!!
Jeany
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Post by toni on Oct 4, 2009 8:46:35 GMT -5
Violet,
What Sophie does with the white pitchers is a riot! ;D hahahha
She knows how to get her moms attention for sure. Just too funny.
My little chihuahua terrier I had 18 years would find a bra from the clothes basket or hamper, and then (never knew how she did it) but she did it - but I'd be going about my business around the house, and then I'd look, and there'd she be!
Sitting somewhere high up, ontop the couch back or wherever, with the bra cup on her head like a bonnet!
And she'd not move until I'd acknowledge her. That was "her thing". Find a bra, and sit like the cup was the bonnet for her head, (looked more like casper the ghost with that bra cup draped over her entire head) and the rest of the bra would hang down like it was the rest of the outfit probably to her, and then she'd sit frozen - until I went on about how cute she looked, hahhaha
Sometimes I'd see her and pretend that I didn't see her, as she was blinded by it draped over her head, and I'd not say anything, and I'd sort of watch, and she'd never move (unless I raved how cute) she looked, hahaha That was her way to get my attention ;D
They are too precious aren't they. Beyond precious our loving pets are, with each one having so many wonderful personalities as they do.
Jeany,
Mikey is just so adorable ;D
And you'd asked if the glycolic I use caused any improvements?
For Morgs? (it can do different things). Irritate the skin more into pimple like inflamations it can do, which I believe if there's something underneath the surface, it seems to do that.
It doesn't rid Morgs, been using it for several years. As for the skin, our skin LOVES AHA's/glycolic creams or anything that helps it rejuvenate. Salicylics, Retin A's, Retinol's, AHA's they're all great for skin, as they enduce exfoliation and cellular turnover, which is what keeps skin looking younger longer.
Any glycolics, salicylics, retinol's can be purchased easily also.
Kammy, here's where to get (AHA/glcolic cream).
SkinCareRx.com
They carry a product called: MD Forte Hand and Body Cream.
It's 20% glycolic. (they have stronger), but this is pretty powerful.
If anyone wants (salicylics): Platinum Skin Care sells everything.
They're a bit expensive.
And Retinol - which is like Retin A but without a script. That can be purchased at the grocery store or pharmacy.
It's called ROC (overnight retinol cream)...it's very good too!
This is in the retin A family. And I'd say it's an excellent product
too.
(Two easily purchased products without scripts and without breaking the bank are):
ROC (from the grocery store)
MD Forte Hand and Body Cream (which is glycolic, from SkinCareRX.com)
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