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Post by jeany on Jan 28, 2010 3:30:16 GMT -5
People from Asia who come to me with the classic Lyme rash have been infected by fleas and gnats."Gnats? Transmitter of Lyme Disease? People from Asia? Don't you guys think about the clothes from China/Taiwan/VietNam right away too? Or have they possibly brought a new species along?.. boat people..travelers..and what's up with their water? hmmm.... Jeany
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Post by kammy on Jan 28, 2010 4:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Jan 28, 2010 5:08:31 GMT -5
nielsmayer.com/roller//NielsMayer/entry/morgellons_discovery_cure" morgellons.org/faq.htm is more specific about the "3 bacterial pathogens" mentioned by Dr. Harvey above: Most Morgellons patients, if found positive for Chlamydophila pneumonia, a Babesia species or a Borrelia species pathogenic to humans and given appropriate antibiotics long enough, resolve most symptoms. Research and clinical experience are still too early, and numbers treated too few as yet, to know whether present treatment success will mean total, once-and-for-all cure. Many Morgellons patients are improving significantly. If you read into the MRF new theory on morgwatch, it appears that Dr. Harvey suspects chlamydia pneumoniae as responsible for undermining the immunity and setting up its victims easy prey for various parasites and infections. The fibers, according to this theory, are the product of actinomycetes, bacteria that are there only for the ride. Here are the relevant quotes: "The most recent strong hypothesis suggests that an inter-human infectious agent, easily spread by droplet transmission is initially responsible for creating a chronic immune deficiency state." <-- I believe he refers to chlamydia pneumoniae here. In contrast to this position, recent leaks in advance of the publication of a medical paper by Dr. Harvey of the Morgellons Research Foundation indicate a combination of bacterial and parasitic diseases. Dr. Harvey finds that this syndrome is not a new disease, it is a combination of bacterial -- actinomycosis -- and parasitic -- onchocerciacis -- diseases. He is also reporting Dracunculus insignis, the guinea-worm, as being present in some patients." Dracunculus insignis
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Post by kammy on Jan 28, 2010 5:34:18 GMT -5
People from Asia who come to me with the classic Lyme rash have been infected by fleas and gnats."Gnats? Transmitter of Lyme Disease? People from Asia? Don't you guys think about the clothes from China/Taiwan/VietNam right away too? Or have they possibly brought a new species along?.. boat people..travelers..and what's up with their water? hmmm.... Jeany We know there is a common vector between Lymes and Morgellons Disease, from my research I have reason to believe that fungus gnats are a likely indicator or a good place to concentrate research. I found it interesting that Lymes is sexually transmitted... we've been wondering if Morgellons is, also? Wonder when they are going to let us know... after it is pandemic? I would suspect that our Gynecologists are just as clueless as the rest of the specialty doctors in America... this is a shame.
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Post by kammy on Jan 28, 2010 7:51:05 GMT -5
For those searching for the Morgellons fungus/fungi - from what Carnicom has written and our own observations - we can conclude that we are looking for either one fungus that fits the description that he's given or it's a combination of 3 different fungi? I started a leaf experiment last night, sprinkled with lesion debris/saliva on one side and saliva on the other, in hopes of identifying that our fungus might be in the crown gall or plant disease family of fungi, such as this example below that describes a fungus that starts as white, turns to green then to black: Rhododendron Diseases - North Carolina Cooperative Extension: Home - In the latter stages of the disease, the galls are covered with a white powdery substance. ... Entire leaf turns gray-green then brown. 5. Dark brown to black ... The fungus is spread from infected plant debris on the container base and ... www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/pp/notes/oldnotes/od12.htmWe need to put to use the free services that our Extension Offices offer in possibly helping us identify our pathogens.
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Post by kammy on Jan 28, 2010 14:49:11 GMT -5
An update on my home back in Atlanta. It is presently being inspected for a roof leak that I didn't know I had and a musty smell that is being found throughout the house. It appears that there is black mold growing in my attic, in-between where the insulation meets the boards, it wasn't visible. There has been a roof leak that wasn't evident for some time, it is running down the heating vent pipe down to the basement, it appears that there is also mold growing in the underboards in the basement.
So, I was living in an area that had mold growing on the top and on the bottom... this makes the house unlivable, unrentable and probably totally ruined. I'm hoping my Homeowner's Insurance will cover some of the damage? They have already stated that they are not responsible if the roof was not sealed properly, etc. There was no visible mold growing in the living part of the house.
Someone who entered my attic recently to look at Christmas decorations stored up there, to purchase them, has come down sick. Other people are coughing upon entering, or feeling sick after leaving the house.
The Insurance Inspection is happening right now - I will let you know what I find out.
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Post by kammy on Jan 30, 2010 7:06:15 GMT -5
Well... I have to look at this as a blessing in disguise, it could have been worse - it could have been a fire, at least, I was able to get most of the things that were important to me out of the house. I still haven't heard if the Insurance Company is going to compensate me in any way for my loss, I can't remember if I had flood or mold damage riders, they are usually extra? Anyway, this gives me, us and our doctors a place to look, something solid. I was also in contact with black mold in Florida right before I became evident.
The scary part of this is that what the black mold was doing in my home was invisible, unknown to me that it was even present. I noticed that a couple of the rooms had an unusual odor, the Morgellons fungus or combination has a distinct smell, it's hard to describe, sweet and musty. I thought it was in some of the throw rugs and carpets and would put various chemicals on the carpets trying to eliminate it that way, I doubt that I was doing much.
I'll look more at how black mold infestations operate in a home to see if we can find some common clues?...
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Post by kammy on Jan 30, 2010 7:31:28 GMT -5
www.mold.ph/"Toxic Mold Destroys Both Your Home and Your Health! "Most homeowners believe as long as they do not see visible signs of mold, that is, patches of green, blue, or black discoloration on surfaces, their environment is free of contamination. What they don't realize, however, is that large accumulations of [hidden or concealed] mold may be growing in areas that they cannot see, like air ducts, remote attic or basement spaces, or wall cavities. Left to multiply, these infestations may produce enough organic compounds to cause allergic reactions, sickness and, in extreme cases, death (a possibility with infants)," Edward R. Lipinski, "HOME CLINIC: The Battle Against Mold and Mildew," New York Times, 9/12/99. Mold warning signs: The top, most-common mold health symptoms, symptoms of mold exposure, symptoms of deadly or unhealthy black mold and toxic mold, symptoms of mold poisoning, and mold health problems are listed below, in alphabetical order. Learn about available medical mold diagnostic and treatment procedures in the in depth ebook Mold Health Guide. Read the top 100 mold signs. A mold victim may experience one or more symptoms or mold illness--- abdominal pain anaphylaxis [severe allergic reaction] acne allergies altered immunity asthma and asthmatic signs like wheezing, shortness in breath, coughing, burning in lungs. balance problems bladder and kidney pain bleeding lungs blood pressure irregularities brain fog, confusion, and/or memory loss breathing difficulties bruising easily burning in the throat and lungs similar to acid reflux] cancer central nervous system effects choking cholesterol or triglycerides irregularities coated tongue colds, recurring and with decreased resistance to infection coughing and resulting sore lungs or chest from excessive coughing coughing up blood dandruff problems [chronic] that don't go away despite use of anti-dandruff shampoos dark urine death in extreme cases dermatitis and skin rashes depression/anxiety/dementia diarrhea difficulty in swallowing dirt-like taste in mouth dizziness eye and vision problems facial movements inadvertently or extreme jerking face flushing intermittently fatigue [chronic, excessive, or continued] and/or general malaise feeling lost or "disconnected" from what's happening around you Fibromyalgia [chronic fatigue and widespread pain] food allergies flu symptoms hair loss headaches heart attack hemorrhagic pneumonitis hives hypersensitivity pneumonitis (extrinsic allergic alveolitis, farmers lung disease) hypersensitivity to mold infertility irritability irritable bowel syndrome itching of the nose, mouth, eyes, throat, skin, or any area kidney pain and failure large boils on neck leaky gut syndrome learning difficulties or mental functioning problems or personality changes liver pain memory loss or memory difficulties/Alzheimers-like symptoms multiple chemical sensitivity nausea night sweats and hot flashes numbness in face and limbs open skin sores and lacerations organic dust toxic syndrome peripheral nervous system effects rashes or hives redness of the sclera (white of your eyes) respiratory distress ringing in ears runny nose (rhinitis), clear, thin, watery mucus from your nose may appear suddenly, or thick, green slime coming out of nose (from sinus cavities) seizures sinus congestion, sinus problems, and chronic sinusitis skin redness sleep disorders slurred speech sneezing sneezing fits (more than three sneezes in a row, happening often) sore throat spitting up mucous spleen pain swollen lymph nodes thyroid irregularities tremors [shaking] and twitching urinary tract infection verbal dysfunction [trouble in speaking] vertigo [feelings of dizziness, lightheadedness, faintness, and unsteadiness] vision problems vomiting "Fifty percent [50%] of homes contain problem molds. A new medical study attributes nearly 100% of chronic sinus infections to mold. A 300% increase in the asthma rate over the past 20 years has been linked to molds," Source: USA WEEKEND, Dec. 3-5, 1999"
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Post by kammy on Jan 30, 2010 8:00:55 GMT -5
cont. "Exposure to certain types of fungi, known as toxic mold, can cause a serious [allergic] reaction. If you're unlucky, this is the kind of mold you have. If you're really unlucky, your toxic mold will gird for battle and go to war, secreting chemicals called mycotoxins, which can find their way into your body, entering through your nose, mouth, and skin, lodging perhaps in your digestive tract, your lungs, or your brain. Among these toxins are trichothecenes, which were rumored to have been used as a biological weapon during the wars in Afghanistan and Vietnam," Lisa Belkin warned, "Haunted by Mold," NEW YORK TIMES, Aug. 13, 2001. "Even if mold in your house doesn't cause you any medical problems, if it becomes established in the wood in your home, 'dry rot' may form. Dry rot can result in a homeowner's nightmare. When the mold dies, the wood dries and then shrinks, breaking up into irregular chunks. Cracks in the wood fiber then act like straws, siphoning up moisture and carrying it to undamaged portions of the wood. Left unchecked, this process keeps recurring, continually rotting more wood, and can cause severe structural damage to your home," warned Vicki Lankarge, from: insure.com 10 Mold Facts for Homeowners, Landlords, Tenants, & Employers 1. Airborne mold spores are everywhere both indoors and outdoors. Resident and employee health is at serious risk if there are elevated levels of mold spores indoors, as compared to an outdoor mold control test. 2. The most dangerous indoor molds are Alternaria, Aspergillus, Chaetomium, Cladosporium, Fusarium, Mucor, Penicillium, and Stachybotrys. Mold testing and mold laboratory analysis are required to identify specific mold species. 3. Molds spores can cause serious health problems even if the spores are dead or dormant (inactive while waiting for more moisture to resume growth). Even the smell of dead or dormant mold can make some mold-sensitive persons ill. 4. It is impossible to get rid of all mold spores indoors. Some mold spores will always be present in house dust and floating in the air. 5. The mold spores will not grow into mold colonies if there is insufficient moisture. Indoor mold growth can and should be prevented or controlled by controlling moisture indoors. If organic materials are wet for more than 24 hours, mold growth can begin. 6. Mold grows by eating and destroying organic building materials and other cellulose-based materials such as carpeting, upholstery, and clothing. The longer that mold grows, the more mold damage to the building. 7. Cellulose is the main substance in the cell walls of plants (and thus of wood), and it is used in the manufacture of many organic building materials such as drywall, plasterboard, plywood substitutes, and ceiling tiles. 8. Mold can grow hidden and undetected inside wall and ceiling cavities; beneath wallpaper, paneling, and carpeting; and inside heating and cooling equipment and ducts, attics, crawl spaces, and basements. 9. Mold growth is often the result of a structural or construction defect, or of maintenance neglect, that allows moisture to enter the building. 10. The owner or employer must first fix the water problem (roof leak, plumbing leak, high indoor humidity) that enables the mold to grow. Effective mold remediation requires killing the mold with one of the Mold Home Remedy Recipes, removing it, and treating the cleaned area with a mold protective coating explained in the special report Mold Home Remedy Recipes."
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Post by healingvibe on Jan 30, 2010 15:59:44 GMT -5
Hello Kammy, I'm new to the board and have yet to have a discussion with--or even encounter--others who are experiencing this challenging problem. It's been good to read your very empowering posts: I like your attitude of problem-solving. Indeed, I feel that there is a solution; we just have to define the problem as specifically as possible. Because I believe that the problem can vary in form amongst sufferers--and that variations in source are possible--I think our best help is going to come from self-observation and testing and then sharing it with each other. So I sincerely honor your devotion towards this end. I am not the scientist you are, but I have certainly done plenty of testing on myself, with lots of failure and some noticeable, permanent success as well. I have been fighting "it" since Feb. of 1994, but since it has changed 'personalities' at times, it's been difficult to pinpoint the actual source and so the battle continues. Perhaps, at some point, I'll be able to make a contribution with what I've learned over all these challenging years. For now, I'm still stumped. I have recently come across a document that actually startled me, for I had not found such concurrence, symptomatically, in any previous record, research, or commentary. I'm wondering if you've seen this document (linked below) and, if so, how--if at all--you'd relate it to the baculovirus theory? Briefly, in my case, an already suppressed immune system--Epstein-Barr and mononucleosis--was presented with either a parasite or a virus after I received a bug bite while in Mali. The bite upon my thumb caused the digit to turn fiery red--with the accompanying pain--then a charcoal-like black, which then disappeared with time. One year later, believe it or not, my entire body 'caught on fire' from the inside out in similar fashion. Like so many of the questions that overwhelm the self-study of illness, I am still not clear whether the 'invader' caused the fire directly or if the invader propelled the body to cause the fire in an attempt to kill it. I was never feverish, though, so the former seems more likely. The fire lasted for eight years and the symptoms accompanying were horrific, but somewhere in the very beginning many of the symptoms mentioned in this document appeared. Though, I have handled many of them, ironically, new ones that I'd never experienced before have appeared this past year. It's been bizarre to watch a monster that I thought I had greatly subdued come back alive with new tactics. It's certainly creative and resourceful, and I'm sure multifaceted in nature. Regardless, I believe the solution to the problem is in handling the terrain of the body and the home environment, but this document woke me up to the strong possibility that this (fungi, virus, parasite) frankenstein is living in symbiosis with my living environment. I suddenly feel like a piece of carrion. Well, I look forward to hearing your response (or anyone else's, for that matter). www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/micromyiasis.htmBlessings to you and all the others fighting the good fight. Hayes
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Post by kammy on Jan 30, 2010 16:41:07 GMT -5
Hi Hayes, I haven't read all of Jo's work on her site, but we are very supportive in that she has approached her conclusions based on sound information.
We are seeing a small fly called a fungus gnat inside of something that fits the scientific description of a baculovirus. Supposedly, the baculovirus is viral in size, however, I am easily seeing these artifacts at 100x. If you read the first few posts in this thread, you can see in human experiments where we have ID'ed the exact match to the stock photos of a baculovirus.
What I'm thinking is that certain conditions have to be met in order to see the larvae hatching from the "baculoviral-like" capsid. I believe it is a seasonal hatching event brought on by rising outdoor temperatures in the summertime, my hatching that was caught with photography happened in August. I am going to repeat experiments this coming year to see if I can get the same results as last year. Or, I'm thinking, the Petri Dishes inside a heated incubator to mimic summertime weather might cause this to happen?
I don't if you're following - that I just found that my home is totally contaminated with black mold in which the past experiments were done? And, fungus gnats were seen in the environment in the summertime, it is possible that they got into the Petri Dishes, attracted to the fungal growth that was in them, but - what does not make sense is that I have photos of the capsids that show exit holes. I even have photos of larvae-like images coming out of the capsids, next live larvae are seen in the dish.
So, we might think, as in my case - I have an outer ear lesion, and let's say that inside my lesion is some sort of fungal growth. That at night when I was sleeping a gnat landed on my ear and laid her eggs and therefore, it caused her larvae to be hatched in my ear, as I have stated.
But, I honestly don't believe this is the way that the larvae and adults are showing up under some of our skin. We had one gal who sent debris from her ear to an entomologist for analysis and it came back as parasitic wasp, moths, leafhopper, etc. it is highly unlikely that all of these insects landed on her ear and laid their eggs in her sleep and all hatched into adults at approximately the same time. From my research, I believe this is happening internally.
Please share with us any information that you think might be of help, some of us are in trouble and fighting the fight of our lives. You never know when something that has worked for you might also help someone else? Feel free to express yourself here, we're all interested.
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 4:55:24 GMT -5
I have a scrapbook that I compiled during the first part of my illness in 2008, I didn't have a microscope then, I am just now going back to microscopically view what 'things' are, everything was preserved in tape or plastic with notes made per specimen. I'm finding this to be quite revealing and is helping me make better sense of what happened to me. I thought about creating a new thread called "The Diary and Observations of a Morgellons Sufferer" but decided to put my observations here instead.
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 5:48:42 GMT -5
I'm going to start in the present and go back in time. Some of us don't talk much about our daily suffering, I just saw a post by Toni where stated that she has a facial lesion that has created a tunnel in her face and EVERYDAY and can get hundreds of particles out of it. I don't know if Toni is as consumed with her facial lesions as I am with my ear lesion, I suspect, she might be as it is quite a normal response when something like this is happening to us? Some of us are consumed with trying to get this foreign material out from under our skins - for it to only return as fast as we can remove it! It's maddening, the time and hours spent... unable to function normally for manipulating our lesions. I cannot tell you how much time I have spent on the computer and at the same time I am trying to get these 'cones' out of my ear. Well, from viewing the 2008 specimens, I think I now know what has happened... that observation I'll address later. Presently I am trying a variety of products to help my body rid the toxins and to get better. I have recently introduced a B supplement, amino acids, a multi-vitamin, Vitamin C, NAC, nigella sativa, zinc and magnesium, chlorella... In the meantime, I am putting a variety of topicals on my ear, which I alternate - I am taking the nigella sativa capsule which has an oil in it and using that, Jeany has made a spritz bottle of Soap Nuts with a couple of drops of tea tree oil in it - which I spritz on my ear every time I go into the bathroom, I also brush my teeth with this soap and even ingest a small amount of it - I just spritz it in my mouth and swallow it. (We found the nigella sativa seeds at a Turkish store for .99 cents for a small jar - I am sprinkling them on my bread, salads, etc. It is the black seed spice on their traditional bread.) Jeany has made two different salves with a vaseline base, one of them has boric acid powder in it - I'm not sure what the other one has all in it? I have been using Mark Newmann's white cream on and off with tea tree added, I think I added some baby diaper rash cream to it also - as the cream by itself was not strong enough for my lesions. I'm also periodically using another white cream in a tube, a German product by Bayer called "Bepanthen". The reason I alternate topicals is because it seems that whatever you use, the Morgs tend to become immune to it after about a week. I have noticed that the white creams tend to help my lesions the most, I don't know why, except that some of the white diaper rash creams are known to fight fungus and have the needed zinc in them, they are thick and smother them, possibly? And, I have also observed that the lesion area must be kept moist at all times in order to make any progress. That when you let your lesion dry out, let air get to it - that it causes the fungal spores, specks, etc. to multiply right back to where you started. The ear is such a hard place to doctor and there are very few products made to put on your ear - as in an ear cover or cup. I have found that by cutting the corners off of plastic bags in a triangle shape, this makes a good covering for ears and I then use a bandana tied around my head to hold the plastic in place with the medicine under it while I sleep. I have gotten better being out of my old environment and in this new one, in some noticeable ways. What I noticed shortly after being here is that my teeth and skin no longer had a continuous biofilm on them. I suspect this has something to do with the water I was using there. I'm also drinking what I believe is a better grade of bottled water. So, I've been fighting like hell to recover my ear from whatever is inside of it. I rarely look anymore as to what's coming out of my ear - it feels like sandy, grainy 'debris' - I've scoped it a time or two and just know that it's foreign material and shouldn't be happening. I use my fingernails to manipulate the stuff out... Jeany has seen me struggling with it and I was in the bathroom over the sink and she noticed and offered to pull some of the stuff out herself, she has much stronger hands than I do, so I let her. Wellll... she starts plucking out these tiny, white larvae-looking things that are embedded like a splinter, like a tooth that you have to extract. She spritzed some of the boric acid/water and ? solution that she had made up on my ear and it makes 'them' angry she says, she waits a second and they raise their 'heads' out from under the skin and then she snags and pulls them out. In my tuggings I am not getting these 'larvae' out - I'm just managing to get out the spheres, debris, etc... but not the actual 'critter' that is most likely causing the debris to be happening. She's pulling these larvae out one after another and I'm exclaiming..."What is THAT?" as she's doing it... we get a slide and lay some of them on the slide... this is what they look like microscopically at 100x: Here are all of the photographs in their original size, I've put links here because they are too large for the site, 1/31/10: my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_5.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_6.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_7.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_8.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_9.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_10.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_11.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Ear13110/01_31_12.JPEGAlso, Jeany mentioned yesterday where Mark Newmann says to use tape to rip these things out from under the skin. I'm going to try that next - possibly some strong duct tape would work pretty good? I'll let you know when I try this. What the heck is in my ear in the above photographs? (My ear is noticeable better since I got these objects out! I will address what I believe they are later, when you see more conclusive evidence.)
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 8:10:42 GMT -5
Jeany was not wearing rubber gloves when she was working on my ear. Well... we're not taking medicines, we probably both have the same pathogens, so what difference does it make? I was adamant about her washing her hands in-between each handling and to thoroughly wash and disinfect her hands and under her fingernails, etc., afterwards. By me touching my ear, I'm using two fingers predominately, my thumb and middle finger. The end of the thumb has deformed and flattened, it is calloused. My middle finger has a large callus on the side of it and the fingernails on both fingers are eroded as if severely filed. I know that whatever it is coming out of my ear - is pretty dangerous and can deform the skin. (I wouldn't recommend to let anyone work on your skin lesions without gloves that doesn't have evident Morgellons!) Right after Jeany was working on my ear... she noticed something in her eye. She puts her finger up to her tear duct, as we do, and pulls something 'wormy-looking' out of her eye! She's been complaining that her vision is going and of headaches in the afternoons but has never had objects coming out of her eyes... (Who knows, something could have hopped out of my ear into her eye but it's unlikely, she had her glasses on?) I'm sitting there with the microscope nearby and decide to put this 'worm' on a slide and here is what it looks like... of course, it got smashed in the process of putting on the slide, you see it's head is intact, but the rear end (has this tail-looking thing) and then its innards are the stringy 'goo'... the head end. Here's all of the photos taken in their original size, made into links due to size, at 100x, 1/31/10: my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_13.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_14.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_15.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_16.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_17.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_18.JPEGmy-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/KatsEye13110/01_31_19.JPEGI had already been observing the artifacts that came out of my 2008 Scrapbook, remember that I chose to look at Morgellons initially from a cellular point of view - I have never been one to post what's coming out of my body because frankly, I've never able to make heads nor tails out of most people's photographs. I started noticing some similarities in all of these artifacts and believe I can 'read' what I'm seeing better. There's been many photographs that I have not published because I haven't covered those areas yet...
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 2, 2010 8:53:16 GMT -5
If the insurance company will not take responsibility, then the homebuilder would then become questionable. I also believe the insurance company would be required to help, because as a reasonable homeowner, and when one pays for insurance, they are doing so in good faith that the home was built correctly and to cover damages incurred.
But there is so many intricacies in the responsibility factor that can tip the scale one way or another.
Have you read the CDC statements on environmental mold and biotoxin illness? It is quite similar to the stance they have taken on Morgellons, one of denial and lack of information, in light of the fact that many are showing proof of its existence. if environmental mold were to be a causal effect in developing Morgellon's, then I don't see them ever acknowledging morgellons exists as well due to the responsibility factor.
In environmental mold, someone is responsible for its occurrence, and that means huge amounts of money and compensation in the ensuing lawsuits. Of which are already taking place. Just something to think about.
Also, Jeany,
I am sorry to hear about your experience with Kammy's lesion and Kammy, thanks for letting us know what you two are fighting at the moment. I am glad to hear your ear lesion is responding and hope it will eventually clear in the near future for you.
But Jeany. Your description of the headaches and the wormy eye goo sound so familiar. Do you get conjunctivitis and generate lots of goo, especially when you wake up in the morning?
I haven't had time to go through all the links to the pictures, but do you two remember me posting my lacrimal duct goo pictures? Does what your seeing look similar? Since you both seem to be having problems in these areas, would you atleast consider the sinuses and all their connections to each other?
Also, have either of your had what felt like an ear itch, deep inside, and seems to feel better if your press or rub your tongue clear back in the back of your throat? Either of you had a sore throat at anytime?
Take good care...
Frito
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 8:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 2, 2010 9:10:16 GMT -5
Also, I can't find your reference now, but you have mentioned actinomyces several times. I also agree that this is occuring, but it is important to know that there are actually two types or entities responsible for the actinomyces diagnosis. That being caused by bacteria, referenced directly as actinomyces, and those caused by fungii, directly referenced as eumycetes and incorrectly referenced as actinomyces.
Importantly, the connection to the actinomycetes and the eumycetes, is that the bacteria and fungii are again considered umbiquitous and are usually found in the sinuses, mucous membranes, and the oral cavity, but due to the nature of the beast, acquire resistence, and IMHO are not normal. These can often go from the connections from the sinuses and show up as lesions elsewhere in the body.
I also read something about the fibers being connected to bacteria. I think more so and if in this case actinomycetes and eumycetes are being considered within this connection, then just MHO that the black specks are more directly associated with the bacterial component as well as the fungal spores we have identified, and the fibers are more classic or representative of the fungal component. In terms of rate of occurence and does not discount that actually both the generation of fibers and particles could be due to both bacteria and fungii. So in summary, and IMHO and also in my own case, I do believe the bulk of the fibers I see are fungal, and then I have a mix of bacterial granules and fungal spores.
I came across a source in which states that it would behoove the homeowner sending in samples for identification, that they also have the sample tested for the symbiont bacteria also found around indoor mold colonies. Perhaps we should all be doing that as well with our petri's?
Frito
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 9:25:53 GMT -5
Hi Frito, we were posting at the same time...
I think both Jeany and I have some sort of pneumonia with our Morgellons, she got a cough in July in my house, the mold condition probably had something to do with it? Her cough hasn't gone away. I've had a runny nose and sinus congestion for over a year now. Of course, I've been to doctors about this!...
I'm still waiting to hear from the Insurance Company, Frito, I don't know what their stance is going to be, I don't have a copy of my policy here - so, I don't know what I purchased? I see on the Internet where my Insurance Company has a bad reputation with handling this kind of claim, I don't expect much. I'll just have to bankrupt and let the Insurance Co and bank fight it out, if they reject my claim.
The mold was invisible, there was no indication that this was happening... I had one black leather jacket hanging in the living room, next to the door on the coat rack that had some white mold growing on it, which I threw away. I had a pair of boots in my clothes closet that I hadn't worn in a long time that also had some white mold on them, which I tossed.
I haven't reported my and other's illnesses from being in my home yet... I'm waiting on them to make the first move and see what their stance is going to be and then I will see what they say in this regard.
I worked hard all my life, 7 days a week for 14 years in one stretch, worked every Holiday... and bought and paid for 2 homes, out and out - and took the money from the sale of those and put it into my present home... so this home represents everything I've ever worked for. I'm happy that I got out with a few things, I stopped being materialistic a while back... having 'stuff' isn't important to me anymore.
I haven't ordered the mold test yet but will be curious as to what's in there since I am showing up with no mold/fungal growth in my culture. At some point, I think it was last March 09 - I complained to the ER doctors that I thought I had some sort of blood infection... which they took blood and didn't say or see anything, that I know of? Since I'm not showing all the 'other' fungal pathogens that most are here - I'm hoping to narrow down what the Morgellons fungus is by a mold test in my home? It's being reported that there is a white, black and grey/green fungus/mold present.
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 9:40:33 GMT -5
That's good that you're exploring the inner workings of what's happening to us in the fungal/bacterial arena and how we can fix it?... I'm not sure about the actinomycetes and eumycetes connection, I haven't studied it in depth - but, I'm sure it's important if you're bringing it to our attention? If you'd like to share with us more in detail, that's great!
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2010 9:53:12 GMT -5
Here is the photo from above of Jeany's 'eye worm' where the 'legs' are being elongated out from the body of the organism... what I'm actually calling 'legs' is the innards of the organism that got wiped onto the slide in the process of the 'worm' being transferred. However, I believe this shows the nature of what I'm trying to describe. Here is a photo for comparison of a dead adult insect: I will later show in more upcoming photos of how the 'legs' are formed and then show a near adult phase of larvae to show how this happens.
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