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Post by jo on Feb 11, 2010 20:41:42 GMT -5
I still don't understand why they are making a baculovirus of the pest insects? www.springerprotocols.com/Abstract/doi/10.1385/0-89603-272-8:277"Baculoviruses have been isolated from a wide range of invertebrates. Their development as pest control agents spans over 40 years, although records of their discovery and use date from considerably earlier (1). The baculoviruses from Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths), Hymenoptera (sawflies only), and Coleoptera (beetles) present the best options for pest control, and thus most research on baculovirus insecticides has concentrated on these orders. Baculovirus insecticides have been used in a wide range of situations from forests and fields to food stores and greenhouses." Hi ya Kam, Is it simply, that baculovirus are insect pathogens....so have been cultured from these orders over the last 40 years to make proficient insecticides? Jo xxx |
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Post by kammy on Feb 15, 2010 9:32:56 GMT -5
HI JO!... I've been off-line for a few days... thank you for your input, your answer helps me a lot. I think the problem is... I'm seeing this entirely different than most. I need to go back and start all over... To share something interesting today, I was cracking several BIO (organic) eggs into a bowl to make an omelette for breakfast and had 6 or so already in the bowl, another entered and I see these unusual 'specks' around the yolk. I take a spoon and dip them out and inquire. I toss all of those and start again... the first egg has 3 'specks' around it, I pull one out and here's what it looks like at 100x:    These are the same 'spheres' that I believe turn into our larger spheres, the same ones that Carnicom is showing us, also:  It looks suspicious to me, I don't think it's coming from the chicken, I think the egg had a weak place and a gnat or insect has drank and injected the eggs with this foreign material. I would need to culture these specks to see what they produce in the future to be sure if these particles produce the Morg Artifacts or not? Note: these 'specks' were only seen in 2 out of a 14 or so eggs. I thought I'd share this info with you so that you could be more aware that there might be something unusual in some of our eggs? In the meantime, we're going back to an old method when egg producing methods were not as good as modern technology in which the egg is cracked and put into a separate bowl or cup BEFORE it enters the 'mix' or skillet, as reported this method was used in the older times. Look at the American eggs and see if you see any unusual 'specks' in them? |
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Post by bannanny on Feb 15, 2010 20:16:08 GMT -5
... and they were ORGANIC eggs? It's getting harder and harder to know what's really organic and what's not anymore!
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Post by kammy on Feb 17, 2010 6:25:05 GMT -5
... and they were ORGANIC eggs? It's getting harder and harder to know what's really organic and what's not anymore! I'm not sure about the eggs here yet, Banny... it needs looking into - for sure. These were the BROWN eggs... I cracked 6 white organic eggs yesterday and didn't see anything unusual. It could be that what those specks are - are completely natural with that type of egg? My point is - is that we need to modify our methods and look at ways to possibly be safer - like going back to old-timey methods of cracking eggs separate before putting them in the mix. We can no longer assume that our foods are safe and the ways of the organism that has made us sick is unknown at this time and possibly causing our illness to perpetuate, we need to be more aware until we know more. |
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Post by bannanny on Feb 17, 2010 18:54:57 GMT -5
Well sh*t... I looove brown eggs too!
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Post by kammy on Feb 18, 2010 9:28:55 GMT -5
Well sh*t... I looove brown eggs too! Well, I'm asking when you crack them there in America - are you seeing any unusual 'specks' inside? A lot of the local produce here comes from the community. We're in farm country and I'm thinking that the brown eggs which look like they are fertilized and the white ones are not. I'm wondering if the brown eggs have a rooster involved?... trying to find out. The brown eggs are richer in the color of the yolk, almost orange - and taste better to me. |
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Post by Sidney on Feb 18, 2010 16:58:12 GMT -5
The specks could mean the hens lost their virginity in the chicken yard or pen.
Some Rascally Rooster jumped their feathers in a surprise and primitive attack on their persons, thereby impregnating them and causing small specks to appear in their eggs.
Do German Roosters behave that way given the opportunity or are the local hens virgins? ;D
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Post by jeany on Feb 19, 2010 5:03:19 GMT -5
Do German Roosters behave that way given the opportunity or are the local hens virgins? ;D aint tellin' ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by kammy on Feb 20, 2010 3:31:57 GMT -5
Well sh*t... I looove brown eggs too! Well, I'm asking when you crack them there in America - are you seeing any unusual 'specks' inside? A lot of the local produce here comes from the community. We're in farm country and I'm thinking that the brown eggs which look like they are fertilized and the white ones are not. I'm wondering if the brown eggs have a rooster involved?... trying to find out. The brown eggs are richer in the color of the yolk, almost orange - and taste better to me. German Gentlemen roosters?... asking first? ;D I suspect the same thing, Sid. But, what's interesting is that we see the same carbon-like circular spheres, this 'speck' looks blood-like too... hmmm?.... |
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Post by kammy on Feb 26, 2010 3:47:18 GMT -5
I'm not posting too much right now, I need to be preparing what we've found to present to the doctors, from what I hear, I think they will be interested, but - I'm not due to this illness. It's funny how I can't seem to get coordinated with large tasks, has anyone else noticed that?
I'm suspecting some facts about Morgellons that haven't been touched on yet and I hope to prove soon and I wanted to put them out here in case I don't get around to them.
I hope I'm wrong with some of these theories... they are based on first-hand experience:
I'm suspecting that we are emitting invisible or microscopic particles into our environment, that our homes are becoming infected from our natural living. That the agent coming from our bodies is mostly fungus/mold-like with BT, BS, agrobacterium, etc. it is invisible and probably doesn't show itself unless we add moisture.
I believe these particles can come out of our lesions as a powder, specks, crystals, fibers... they can even come out from our body fluids. That if our hands or feet are sweating these particles can be transmitted onto objects.
That if you isolate a 'fiber' in a Petri Dish - the fiber will turn into a sphere which will turn into the other artifacts.
That a single color of fiber produces a specific sphere.
That there are 4 predominate colors of 'fibers' noted, red, blue, black and clear/translucent, that each one produces a different sphere. However, each of these spheres appears similar.
That by taking traditional lab dyes and staining the spheres - we might be able to see that they take the stains differently therefore meaning they are different from each other.
To isolate a single color of 'fiber' to see what it produces and to see if it consistently produces the same.
That if I re-create my experiment in the hot weather months - I will be able to show the baculoviral aspect of the disease. I will monitor and record it better this year.
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Post by kammy on Mar 5, 2010 13:04:12 GMT -5
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Post by ibzahp on Mar 5, 2010 19:49:08 GMT -5
I can tell you they don' t like the clay one little bit. I got this special soap that has a lot of that clay in it to go after the fiber and stuff in my scalp as they are very motile but after shampooing with that they went quiet!!! I used it three more times so far but on the 4th time they didn't seem so sickened by it. I will give it a break then come back to it.
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Post by bannanny on Mar 5, 2010 20:23:59 GMT -5
Geeeze kam... I can't even perform small tasks anymore let alone large ones. About all I can do is sit here and type... and sometimes that can take me forever just to make what I say make sense.
As for what you suspect... I don't suspect it at all. I KNOW it's what's happening. I know I've transmitted the goo from my hands and feet onto everything and anything I touch. I know the particles and fibers fly off of me all the time cuz I can see them doing so. I see them come off of everything else around me now too. I even see the stuff outside... it's everywhere. I think each colored fiber holds a different property to the other as well. Not sure what those differences are, but I think they are different.
That's one great article too kam! It's the best one I've read about morgs... and easy to understand. You should post it on a separate thread so everyone is sure to read it! Thanks tho... I got alot out of that!
love you ~~ bannanny
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Post by bannanny on Mar 5, 2010 20:35:31 GMT -5
We must've been posting at the same time ibzahp. What's the soap called that you got? I'm glad it helped, even if only for a few times. It's good to take a break from things we use sometimes, you're right about that. It seems this stuff becomes immune to something if we use it all the time. The Irish Spring head and body wash is still working for me... I should take a break from it now for a little while too so I confuse the little suckers!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Mar 7, 2010 10:50:51 GMT -5
Yes, Banny, that is a good article and it contained some information that I didn't know about. I'm wondering where they found it, maybe you can put the link on a thread for us and we can talk about it? Or, we can talk about it here, it makes some interesting points?
Morgs don't like soap and clay. I'm thinking that soap or detergents in one way or another should be part of the lysing process, that it might be a 2 or 3 step process to rid lesions, with soap being one the steps. And, we probably need to rotate products, as it quickly becomes immune? If we find out a good combination then we can apply this internally?
I just started back with the 'soap nuts', I'm drinking a small amount of the solution internally and using it externally, it cuts the biofilm on my teeth better than anything I've found. As soon as I stopped brushing my teeth with it, along with toothpaste - the biofilm build-up came back. I'm glad to hear that the Irish Spring soap and clay are working well...
I have to say that I was amazed when I watched "Mfromcanada's" video and saw how the fibers were flying out of her and around her and then to hear you say that the same thing was happening with you too. I am emitting tiny particles, some of which are small fibers too - as I am constantly tugging at my ear to remove the debris particles, I feel like Schultz's cartoon character, "Pigpen"... there's a Morg dust cloud around me, I'm sure.
I think it's admirable how some of you grandmothers, out of love, are refusing to possibly give Morgellons to your grandbabies. It's so sad how much of our quality-of-life we've been robbed of. There are some grandmothers here though, that are interacting with their babies and everything appears to be fine with them and I think that's great. We seem to have varying degrees of our body emissions, or feelings of contagiousness and I say to live as normally as possible. I probably would not interact with mine (if I had any) and depending on the situation... I'm sure it's a hard call?
I have refused to go around my aging mother and family since I have become sick, I just cannot bare the thought of anyone getting this because of my actions, I think it's an ultimate way to show love and caring for them. Of course, my sister doesn't see why I couldn't come see my mother before I left for Germany, either... they just don't understand how awful this disease is and how little we know about it as far as contagiousness goes. We have been left to wonder about the contagiousness of it, no help yet in that department either.
One thing I wanted to mention was that we sit where the sunlight can beam into the room, there's a box of kleenex that all around it are white specks and fibers... I suspect the German paper products are contaminated also, but don't know for sure yet, the particles look suspiciously "Morg-like". We've installed two air purifiers in the space we spend a lot of time, even with these - some days there's lots of particles in the air in the room. It has been snowing the past two days here, today there are no particles in the air. We're looking at finding a kleenex that doesn't produce so many particles when you pull them out of the box, we're thinking about going back to the days of using cotton handkerchiefs, use them for a day and then toss them in the wash. I wonder how much the paper products are adding to our disease, as I strongly believe the Morg artifacts are in the paper products. Have any of you others with a Petri Dish cultured paper yet?... just tear a piece over the dish, doesn't take much to start it to grow - then compare it visually or microscopically to what you've seen from your lesion samples and determine for yourselves?
I've always found it interesting about how your hands and feet transmit the goo, Banny. I have noticed that my computer keys and mouse look like they have a white and black fungus growing on them after a couple of days, I have to disinfect it every couple of days or so now. My hands and feet perspire a little bit from time to time, I suspect that I am actually sweating out the fungi from my pores, which does not surprise me because I can see the Morg particles in my blood, why wouldn't they be in my sweat? I wonder what the difference is between us, Banny? I am expelling the black and white fungal spores and you're expelling clear goo? We saw where one of your spheres bloomed a fungus that is clear and translucent... my white one is more like a puffy cotton ball... we all appear to have the same white/puffy cotton one? I can't believe my Petri Dish came back as "nothing" - I meant to ask them if there was anything appearing to grow in the dish anyway?
Are any of the fungi that Dr. Abbott found in your samples known to have clear/translucent hyphae, Banny? What were they again, I'll look at them? Did you compare what your reported fungi looked like with the clear one that I microscopically photographed for you, I'd almost bet that it doesn't match any that were reported to you? Did Dr. Abbott see the photo I'm talking about?... let me see if I can find it... I looked, I couldn't easily find it - you know the photo I'm talking about?
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Post by kammy on Mar 7, 2010 13:51:11 GMT -5
Ok, I wanted to share this information with you before I close or lose all of my open research tabs, I found this interesting. We're looking at prion disease from Jen's postings on the recent NIH report and I look at scrapie - the sheep/goat disease. Well, a lot of things look Morgellons-like under the microscope, so, I kept investigating further, which lead me to "atypical scrapie"... which took me to this too small image that looks Morg-like, but hard to tell: and then I see this fly and I wonder what this fly has to do with scrapie? www.cresa.es/cresa3/default.asp?mod=strmenu01&anio=2010&sub=noticia149"Culicoides biting midges (Diptera: Ceratopogonidae) are vectors of important diseases affecting wild and domestic animals. During the last decade they have played a major role in the epidemiology of the largest bluetongue epizootic ever recorded in Europe, the disease is transmitted between hosts almost exclusively by bites of Culicoides midges and affects both domestic and wild ruminants however severe disease usually occurs in certain breeds of sheep and some species of deer." I notice that the wing pattern of this fly slightly resembles our 'v-shaped' fungus gnat. |
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Post by kammy on Mar 7, 2010 14:03:12 GMT -5
This lifecycle chart below is what I found most interesting because I just stated a few posts ago about how I believe the (main) Morgellons organism (which I believe to be a GM fungus gnat or small relative) is in a lifecycle inside of one of our spheres in a baculoviral environment in which it shows itself in its live form in the month of August/September! And, sure enough, that is what this chart below is showing, the exact same thing I said from first-hand observation without researching the lifecycle of a fly at all! I was just stating when my Petri Dishes came to life - August 1 - and thru the month of August last year, I predict that if you care to do certain experiments - our organisms can easily be seen. That other times of the year, they are occult and in different forms and unless this fact is known by scientists researching our disease, it may be years before they stumble onto this fact and see this!www.butox-info.com/ectoparasites/lifecycle-culicoides.aspCulicoides midges - Lifecycle "In most Culicoides species the lifecycle is poorly understood. During summer the development from egg to adult takes a couple of weeks. Some larvae and pupae are overwinter in protected breeding places and continue development in warmer weather." |
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Post by kammy on Mar 7, 2010 15:15:19 GMT -5
"Nutshell Theory" Ok, here it is in a 'nutshell'... this needs looked into closer - here's what I'm thinking from everyone's contributions put out lately, it seems like we're all onto a piece of the puzzle, it's just a matter of putting it together - Morgellons disease is mostly caused by a GM modified small gnat/fly larvae that we've come into contact with. There appears to be other organisms which may or may not be present in all of us, we're just not sure at this time. This main organism has infected us with a scrapie-like mis-folding prion protein disease. Like the people with prion disease, it appears genetically disposed, 40/60 odds in getting it? Morgellons can cause a cancer-like disease that sets up these protein spheres multiplying out of control in a granular-type tumor area in various places within the body that resembles but is not currently recognized as cancer. We're not sure if a tumor area/s or out-of-control multiplication is happening in all of us or if this is only happening with some of us at a certain time or under certain conditions within our disease? Morgellons might be causing an Alzheimer's-like disease from the 'fiber' involvement, we need more testing to rule out. This GM fly/gnat is in contact with deer, biting or otherwise infecting them - deer ticks could become infected from the deer blood because the flies/gnats have infected the deer. It's logical to think that the blood of infected deer and deer ticks should also microscopically show the Morgellons pathogens? Other insects have become infected with the GM Morgellons particles and are carriers because of the way that insects interact within the species. Other animals that our fly bites, might also be carriers of the GM Morgellons pathogens. |
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Post by kammy on Mar 8, 2010 5:49:52 GMT -5
Carnicom Analysis I I see that Glenn has started a thread dedicated to Carnicom's latest report but I always comment on Caricom in this thread, because some our discoveries are running parallel and to keep everything in one place. Carnicom is running behind us in some aspects, he has just published about the Fenton's Reaction which Jeany wrote a blog article on back in October and as I have always said that if the researchers are correct - they will eventually overlap in their discoveries. carnicom.com/morgobs9.htm"What can be said about the culture is that if Fenton's reaction takes place in the culture, then we have an explosion of growth that takes place." Here is Jeany's article about the iron overload, the importance of zinc, etc., do we need to discuss the Fenton's Reaction aspect of our disease again for those of you that didn't understand the importance of what is happening? morgellons2.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/hormones-mineral-imbalance-susceptibility-for-morgellons-disease/We have also touched on the free radical polymerization and how to make the OH, HO molecules to stop connecting (OH-HO-OH-HO...) to break the chain that will kill or slow down the disease, as he is doing. This is great that we are coming to the same conclusions. Carnicom is recommending that we take antioxidants to stop the O's and H's from connecting and allowing this disease to explode inside of us: He has "pitted" all of these chemicals against what is growing in his Petri Dish, surprisingly it shows that Peroxide causes the culture to grow, his ROS numbers: "Fluorine 3.0 Hydroxyl radical 2.8 Ozone 2.1 Hydrogen peroxide 1.8 Potassium permanganate 1.7 Chlorine dioxide 1.5 Chlorine 1.4" What do these stats mean? I've heard some say that they are trying ozone therapy, some might still be drinking their tap water which contains fluorine and chlorine, some have put bleach or peroxide in the baths and on lesions, according to his research, these may help promote the disease in some ways. (cont.)... |
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Post by kammy on Mar 8, 2010 6:24:06 GMT -5
Here we are two semi-intelligent researchers that have so much to offer and we've been pushed back and relegated to this obscure, hidden thread that 10 people in the whole world read. Jeany and I discussed offering to become a part of Carnicom's team back in the summer, we discussed the pro's and con's.
We love being able to have our freedom of speech and expression and feel that we wouldn't be able to have our freedom to look, do and say what we're finding and in the manner in which we do it. I'm re-thinking about offering to become a part of his team, if he will have me/us? I'm thinking we could do more for the people under his guidance? If nothing else, I would love to have a conversation with him.
I PM'ed Jo about "seeing" the baculoviral-like aspect of our disease and to prepare for the month of August, I'm hoping she has some lab scientists or help in seeing this aspect? I'm hoping that some of you others here too might try this experiment, the more of us that can witness this, the better. We need to be testing from the U.S., the U.K. and Germany all around the same time, this would make the data more plausible.
I can't be 100% certain that this aspect would repeat itself in other's experiments because my environment was contaminated, however, I am almost certain that this premise is at work inside our disease and can be replicated. If I were successful in repeating my experiment this year, this would put us into next year unless this process could be speeded up by a simulated lab environment, no, it is imperative that I do something this year, we should not have wait much longer for answers.
I watched a Stephen King movie two nights ago, first one I've watched in ages, it's called "Dreamcatchers", the aliens could easily be replaced by the Morgellons pathogens. The control of the aliens was in the hands of the Army - the head officer in charge of handling the situation was unbalanced... oh, the probable parallels? Every military officer's movie dream, something very foreign is taking over the U.S., the world... do we tell the people?... I'm afraid... our disease is in the hands of the craziest of crazy? Maybe, I should forego the Stephen King movies?... I think King is infected and knows it only on a subconscious level and gets closer with his story plots - he's soon to hit on it, I'm sure. Maybe, Stephen King needs a writer to help him?... lol maybe, I should just write my version, Morgellons is so weird no one would believe it's true, anyway.
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