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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2010 12:02:15 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 10, 2010 8:53:20 GMT -5
Toni or whomever - I can only research so much of this disease, as you can see - it is a massive amount of information? I'm trying to stay with the core parasites of what is involved in all of us, the nematode and other larvae. Not that I don't care about these 'others' - of course, I do - I just can't delve into everything, that's why I need your help. And, from the sounds of it - we don't know what our 'entities' may morph into in time, it's still unknown, and that's why these 'others' should be important to us all. (Personally, I think the parasite in the urine looks like your example the most, Toni. - so we can call it that for now?)
Here's some of my thoughts:
Some researchers are writing books saying we have an "organism" and yet, they can't produce a single photo of it, give us a name or a general description.
IF - our disease has come about by the bioinsecticide 'magic' powders that can create the live nematode, THEN - we all should show signs of these nematodes?
That's why I'm asking for people to look at their urine, to see if we can spot another one? That by seeing this organism in several of our samples - would re-inforce the fact that this is where our disease has originated. Have we ever seen this (what I am calling the) Steinernema in any of our samples before?
(BTW - I skipped a step back when I identified the Steinernema, I found a fungus that is associated with it that is a very close match to what is seen 'blooming' in human samples, I closed the tab and haven't found the fungus again. I will research it again and show that shortly, I didn't just pull the name, Steinernema out of a hat.)
IF - we cannot show that nematode involvement is happening with all of us - THEN - where does this take us in our logic?
1. It is the chemistry alone that allows the nematode to be able to come to life from powders, etc., that is being used at the foundation of our disease and not necessarily this particular bioinsecticide product itself.
2. I am believing that the fungus gnat is involved with all of us, I'm not sure if all of our fungus gnats are programmed to contain nematodes or not, I'm not sure if nematodes are in a stand-alone position - if they were, we would have seen more of them by now? And there are the 'other' parasites that have accumulated within the disease system, were they intentionally created - I don't think so, I think they have just come into contact with the 'chemistry' to allow them to be a part of our disease.
If the nematode is not involved in ALL - Why would someone deliberately put out GM fungus gnats into the environment - because the bee populations are declining and they thought we needed other pollinators to take their place?
In my lab experiments, why am I not able to see the nematode eventually in the Petri Dishes - other than possibly inside the fungus gnat larvae? When the gnat larvae hatched into an adult - where did the nematodes go in the dish, they weren't evidently there - did they take an unidentifable inorganic form?
There are many artifacts in my photos that I have not shown - mainly because I don't know what they represent. I was going to wait and discuss a particularly strange artifact that was noticed in the dishes at that time with someone who might know, say when that person came along in the future, that to discuss them now only adds more mystery. Is this a missing key - we can't recognize our nematodes because we haven't recognized how they are being 'expressed'?
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Post by jeany on Apr 10, 2010 9:58:00 GMT -5
Biological control agents to eliminate fungus gnats and larvae: Maggots are also capable of transmitting fungal pathogens (Fusarium, Phoma, Pythium and Verticillium) during feeding. Biological control agents including Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), the predatory mite, Hypoaspis miles and entomopathogenic nematodes have been used as alternatives to chemical pesticides. The entomopathogenic nematodes species including Heterorhabditis bacteriophora GPS11 strain, H. indica LN2 strain and Steinernema feltiae UK strain have a potential to use as biocontrol agents against fungus gnats. nematodeinformation.com/tag/fungus-gnats
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Post by jeany on Apr 10, 2010 10:08:42 GMT -5
Is this causing the itching? Mite - Hypoaspis miles en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoaspis_milesAs a natural predator of fungus gnat pupae and snail parasite. Hypoaspis mites feed on fungus gnats, springtails, thrips pupae, and other small insects in the soil. They may survive by feeding on algae and/or plant debris when insects aren't available. The mite comes in a pasteurized peat mixture for commercial use. insects.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/beemites/species_accounts/Laelapidae.htm... Hypoaspis Canestrini, 1884 (probably paraphyletic genus with unclear boundaries. We include here Hypoaspis lubrica Voigts et Oudemans and Hypoaspis meliponarum Vitzthum) * Is this mite coming in contact with pesticidal fungi what is killing the bees? Jeany
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Post by toni on Apr 10, 2010 10:19:36 GMT -5
Kammy commented:
Toni or whomever - I can only research so much of this disease, as you can see - it is a massive amount of information? I'm trying to stay with the core parasites of what is involved in all of us, the nematode and other larvae. Not that I don't care about these 'others' - of course, I do - I just can't delve into everything, that's why I need your help. And, from the sounds of it - we don't know what our 'entities' may morph into in time, it's still unknown, and that's why these 'others' should be important to us all. (Personally, I think the parasite in the urine looks like your example the most, Toni. - so we can call it that for now?)
Toni says, yep...I sure know what you mean. And the only reason I brought this up is one:
"it looked similar to the pictures you posted".
I too have looked at "the urine" and I've never seen anything in mine. Not that there's nothing there with someone else, or me, I only know what I can see.
Anyways, thanks Kammy, everything is appreciated.
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Post by kammy on Apr 10, 2010 10:26:11 GMT -5
TY, Toni - please feel free to pipe in wherever you feel like it, this is all a discovery process. Do what? They are putting out mites to eat the fungus gnat larvae, and the nematode also eats the fungus gnat larvae AND the mites? So, what do we need - a bigger dose of nematodes? don't kill those! ;D (Crazy, isn't it?) The 'fungi' is supposedly killing the nematodes? Is that why we're not seeing a lot of evident nematode activity?
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Post by jeany on Apr 10, 2010 11:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Apr 10, 2010 12:03:36 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2010 8:54:04 GMT -5
First two look like it... and the 'magnolia'... yes.
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2010 17:51:52 GMT -5
Well... I love starting sentences with 'Well...' lol It's like, where do you start? Haven't we heard that fact is stranger than fiction? You're going to tell your doctors and friends... 'I don't really have nematodes and larvae - I just have expressions of them most of the time, until they decide to come to life...' uh huh - or - 'I'm not in an infective stage right now, my larvae are between instars...' ;D Are we screwed or what? In the beginning of photographing - I had a 3-ringed circus on my hands and wasn't sure of most of what I was seeing... I made different photo categories for the various artifacts. Here's the one (and there's a You-Tube dedicated to the nematodes, etc.), this is in the library at the other site. I believe that some of these are expressions of nematodes: www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-pictures/4975-microscopic-photos-snakes-worms-trophozites.htmlThis is post 26 from that site, didn't we just notice this nematode in one of Jen's threads recently - what was the name of this one? Left Ear cultured in Petri Dish with agar, photographed 3/25/09, @ 600x, cultured 3/1/09 [/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2010 20:11:01 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is a representation of a nematode or not, let us say that it is 'nematode-like'. Notice how it is sprouting - like a plant? Left Ear cultured in Petri Dish with agar, photographed 4/10/09, @ 100x, cultured 3/1/09 [/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 7:08:42 GMT -5
If you look in the You-Tube movie of the same name as the above thread, you'll see cyanobacteria in the first few frames, it was identified early - except... well... it's only seen at certain times in human samples, it dissolves - I think it breaks up into spheres?, this type of analysis hasn't been done yet. But, we see that it's a definite part of Morgellons, I think it's a part in all.
I'm over on Sid's thread about invertebrae - Dr. Frye, and I see when I dig that there's a "MORE TOXIC CYANO-pyrethroids" used in mosquito control. I'm wondering if they've made a insecticide with a cyano-base, as the name would indicate, that's "more toxic" that we've come into contact with? I haven't researched it yet, I suspect that it will offer us some important clues.
I'm looking at a report where they talk about a mosquito's genes that are knowingly modified. WHY would they promote our insects being modified and not stop these scientists in their craziness? They are put in a position to protect us - or so we thought, not to promote science happenings to the point that they can't even identify nor control it, ie. Morgellons Disease?
I ask you - if you knew your food was being manipulated by synthetic fungi, the dna of insects, would you want to eat it or purchase it? You mothers - wouldn't you start raising hail - like the MADD mothers did and get a campaign going to picket Washington? I would! Your grandbabies are eating this 'stuff'. Here we are going through life trying to better ourselves and our health - and we have some fools stealing our dreams and health at every turn. They are allowing the natural order of all life to become totally out of line.
Why all the taboo around Morgellons Disease? Partially because it defies God's word. Any person of religious background should be 'up in arms' about what has happened to us. Those in charge of what's happened to us are of science minds - 'yes, manipulate an insect's gene here and there, it's ok, the people will never know what's going on, it's all in the name of progressive science'...
If they have one drop of a conscious of what's right and wrong - they know we represent that man's science was never intended to be a part of the human genome, God made us perfect from the get-go, any manipulation to animals, insects, or man is going to be a mistake because man does not have the capacity to see the 'big picture'. Unfortunately, it appears that those in control have no relationship with God's word, they believe that man is as dispensable as the bees, frogs and bats... and whatever is next in line?
What's going to happen when the 'religious right' gets word of what's happened to us... !! what SHOULD their reaction be?
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 9:08:48 GMT -5
This is a quote from Sid's thread - to keep everything in one place. Sid's article opens up a lot of doors to look behind, that should take us closer to what's behind our disease. The last photo I posted of the "nematode that is sprouting leaves" indicates to me the cyanobacterial or agrobacterial involvement in our disease: A good article, Sid - it opens some doors to give our disease more foundation. I went over to the CDC's site and did a search on "pruritic dermatitis of unknown pathogenicity" to see what this article said. I was sure that something in it could help us, of course, it is not there that I can find. Can anyone find it? I did find a reference to several articles which I'm reading this morning at: www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/11/pdfs/EID_Vol14No11.pdfIf you skip down and read the 4th or so article called: "Mixture for Controlling Insecticide-Resistant Malaria Vectors" You will see that they are talking about a particular mosquito that has knockdown resistance (kdr) or insensitive acetylcholinesterase resistance (Ace1R) genes, they also talk about them becoming more pyrethroid resistant, which we believe our pathogens are, also, because we are not completely responding to Ivermectin. They are recommending or using active ingredients and "mosaic" treatments. From the little bit of studying here, I believe that the mixture of chemicals/pathogens that has affected us is what some might call a "mosaic". They are using deltamethrin, water-dispersal tablets that have been approved by the WHO, we see that deltamethrin is made by Bayer and is used on 150 farm crops: www.bayercropscience.com/bcsweb/cropprotection.nsf/id/deltamethrin.htm?Open&l=DE&ccm=200020"Deltamethrin is a Pyrethroid compound. Report a Poisoning Symptoms of Poisoning with Pyrethroid Compounds Find Products Containing this Chemical - Irritation of skin and eyes. - Irritability to sound or touch, abnormal facial sensation, sensation of prickling, tingling or creeping on skin, numbness. - Headache, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, excessive salivation, fatigue. - In severe cases: fluid in the lungs and muscle twitching may develop. Seizures may occur and are more common with more toxic cyano-pyrethroids." MORE TOXIC CYANO-pyrethroids ? Whoa! I have identified what is believed to be cyanobacteria in human samples! What are cyano-pyrethroids?, I believe looking in this direction will give us more clues. !!
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 9:10:23 GMT -5
Duplicate post: "Just starting to research CYANO-pyrethroids, I see this patent abstract: www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090131518"The present invention is directed to novel insecticidal and/or miticidal compositions comprising bifenthrin and a cyano-pyrethroid. The compositions exhibit an unexpected increase in insecticidal activity as compared to the insecticidal activity of the individual components." Read more: www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090131518#ixzz0ktIOyo8FSo, they have these two compounds that work to kill insects independently of each other but when they mixed these two together and see an INCREASE in insecticidal activity? "
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Post by jeany on Apr 12, 2010 9:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 9:36:19 GMT -5
Duplicate post: "For example, U.S. Pat. No. 3,899,586 discloses an insecticidal and/or acaricidal composition obtained by mixing N-(3,4,5,6-tetrahydrophthalimide)-methyl chrysanthemate with 5-(2-propynyl)furfuryl 3-(2,2-dichlorovinyl)-2,2-dimethylcyclopropanecarboxylate." Searching U.S. Pat. No. 3,899,586 we see: www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?query_txt=3,899,586&sort=relevance&srch=top&search= Synergistic chrysanthemate insecticides United States Patent 3899586 www.springerlink.com/content/v65324v9722r1588/"Tissue cultures ofChrysanthemum cinerariaefolium were established, and then used to study the production of pyrethrin insecticides, and their precursor chrysanthemic acid. Callus cultures and root-differentiated cultures did not contain pyrethrins whereas shoot differentiated callus was found to produce the pyrethrins. Chrysanthemic acid was isolated by extraction from callus cultures, and feeding14C-labelled chrysanthemic acid to a cell suspension ofC. cinerariaefolium established that the acid accumulates largely as a glucoside ester." www.freepatentsonline.com/6814956.htmlNon-flammable aerosol insecticidal compositions United States Patent 6814956 "A non-flammable aerosol composition insectidal composition comprising 0.01 to 20 weight percent of one or more insecticides; 5 to 25 weight percent of one or more compounds selected from the group consisting of acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, and C1- to C8-alcohol; 5 to 30 weight percent of one or more compounds selected from the group consisting of hydrocarbon propellants, dimethyl ether, and 1,1-difluoroethane; and 60 to 90 weight percent of one or more non-combustible hydrofluorocarbons." **These characteristics sound very suspicious. We have compounds that are coming together to increase insect activity. We have a yellow-based substance, which forms calluses with a root system and it is non-flammable. Once again, the chemical analysis of these substances are known - however, a chart of our disease compounds are not available for comparison.
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Post by jeany on Apr 12, 2010 9:57:49 GMT -5
Here is the fungal bio pesticide used as a mosquito control agent that is also infecting fungus gnats! www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/biocontrol/pathogens/lagenidium_giganteum.htmlIt's actually a water mold that produces oocycts within it's stages... Look, Kammy! Here's what the fungus gnats are pooping! Lagenidium giganteumLagenidium giganteum is a watermold that parasitizes the larval stage of mosquitoes. This microbial parasite belongs to a group of organisms that, although they look like fungi and have a "fungal lifestyle", nonetheless are related to diatoms and brown algae. These cells are often most easily seen either in the larval head capsule or the anal papilla (the breathing appartus at the tail end of the larva). ....can grow vegetatively (for example, on rotting vegetation or dead insects) in the absence of its hosts, it grows much faster It will also infect the closely related dipteran Chaoborus astictopus, the Clear Lake gnat, and at very high concentrations, some species of daphnids. * btw..The clear lakes in Cal./Texas and Florida are known to be DDT contaminated. ... motile biflagellate zoospores At that time each individual cell can form an exit tube and release 10-50 asexual spores, which in turn seek out a new host (C). Alternately, two cells can fuse (D), ultimately resulting in the formation of a thick-walled dormant oospore (E). This sexual stage of L. giganteum can remain viable in a dehydrated state for at least 7 years. It is this spore that is responsible for multi-year recycling of the parasite even though a habitat may be dry for months or years before reflooding and colonization by mosquito larvae. Under appropriate environmental conditions, oospores will germinate, resulting in the production of infective biflagellate zoospores similar to those produced during asexual reproduction. Operational levels of mosquito control have been obtained by ground or aerial application.Multi-hectare aerial applications have been made in rice fields and in refuges for migratory birds, primarily in California,Except for the dormant oospore stage, the parasite is very susceptible to organophosphates, carbamates, herbicides, fungicides, and other chemicalsOrganic solvents such as toluene and oil commonly used as diluents of the active ingredients of pesticides are also toxic to L. giganteum. This parasite is registered with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and several states, including California and Florida, for use as an operational mosquito control agent. It is currently the only commercially available biological control agent (not including Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis, which is a microbial insecticide) for mosquitoes. Besides being host specific, L. giganteum has the ability to recycle for weeks, months, or even years in a given breeding habitat after a single application*So, THIS is what's causing the perpetuation mode, what we are seeing as a cycle of filaments, oocycts (spheres), insect fragments..? Jeany
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 9:59:24 GMT -5
This disease is a real pee*r, it looks like everything but the kitchen sink is possible to be in here. And, I ask you - 'how did this happen'? Some of these 'entities' we should have NEVER come into contact with. And, was anyone at the helm when they are mixing ingredients that cause life forms to become immune to what kills them, that causes insect populations to increase, that creates non-organic entities where organic compounds are not effective against them, that made cells that do not undergo apoptosis and know a normal cell death, that have created a thermodynamic nuclear reactor process that is producing perpetual cells in a giant form, that have unleashed the chemistry buckyballs on nature in which no one knows how they operate, that takes man's worst enemies - fungi and insects and modifies them until they are out of control, that has allowed life to be created from inorganic matter?...
I have shown where the Morgellons insects are perpetual in nature, no male nor female insect have to come together to create an offspring, I also have stated that by the more they spray - the more insects are being artificially created. The only problem is - they refuse to look at our disease for what it is, and even the people with the disease are negating what it is.
At the same time, I am stating that what makes a disease are the factors that we all have in common - this has been the focus of my research. That what we have been shown in the original artifacts in the movie, SSB - were the original. What we see years later that some of us have revealed are the morphed versions that are already in place. I can show you same and vast differences between human subjects, you will continue to see more convoluted themes as time goes by - that is why it is important to recognize the original artifacts.
I emphasize that our doctors and lab technicians do not use microscopes any longer. If Morgellons is affecting the masses, when it becomes known what to test or look for - our doctors will be overwhelmed with patients. I guarantee that most doctors will not be looking into microscopes to determine why their protocol is not working for some.
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Post by jeany on Apr 12, 2010 10:27:24 GMT -5
EPA....crooks Lagenidium giganteum....Based on extensive testing, no harmful effects to humans are expected. Lagenidium giganteum was registered (approved for sale) as a pesticide active ingredient in 1991. As of November 2000, there were three registered pesticide end products containing this fungus as the active ingredient. epa.gov/opp00001/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsheet_129084.htmExpected?...Every time I read that it makes me feel sick..Is it tested or not?? How can they approve something to be safe if they are expecting? Jeany
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Post by kammy on Apr 12, 2010 11:08:01 GMT -5
From our research, as we have shown in a life-cycle diagram [/img][/center] and in the YouTube movies - "The Life Cycle of Morgellons" that we believe that the fungus gnat larvae, adult (and nematode) are all defecating the next life stage of the Morgellons life cycle? Well now... what is the fungus gnat known to defecate? A GIANT sphere!... L. giganteum web.mac.com/sophien/KamounLab/oomycetes.htmHave you noticed that EVERY time that I have referred to the Morgellons 'fungus' that 'fungus' is always in half quotes? Why? Because I have never believed that it is a true fungus. "Traditionally and due to their filamentous growth habit, oomycetes have been classified in the Kingdom Fungi. However, modern molecular and biochemical analyses indicate that oomycetes share little taxonomic affinity to fungi, but rather form a diverse and well defined group of eukaryotes with affinities to brown algae and diatoms. Subsequently, oomycetes are now classified as Stramenopiles, one of several major eukaryotic Kingdoms."
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