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Post by bannanny on Nov 26, 2009 16:31:48 GMT -5
As far as any concerns go regarding the medium used, Dr. Abbott let us know... Hi Robin:
They do not list the ingredients and simply call it Mold Growth Medium (it is not an agar-based medium). In my experience it is adequate to isolate most fungi, but not the best medium and I would recommend our Malt extract agar plates (MEA), which are routinely used for isolation of a wide variety of molds and other fungi. Any fungi that are not growing well on the routine media will be transferred to specialized media for species identification in the lab. Take care.
SeanSo that's good news!! hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Nov 29, 2009 15:55:44 GMT -5
Here's my petri for Dr. Abbott too. Now here's what's incredible. This is ONLY 24 hrs after planting specimens in the petri dish. They're swelling up...getting ready I guess to do their thing - which is grow it appears to me, because yesterday (on the 28th of Nov) just 24 hours ago, you couldn't even see the specimens in the medium because they were too TINY. But today...they've swelled up.
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Post by toni on Nov 29, 2009 16:00:32 GMT -5
Picture of the black electrical tape around the sides as requested for mailing. (man...I've got some super dry hands...Morgs dryness-itis)
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Post by toni on Nov 29, 2009 16:05:43 GMT -5
I placed a wide rubber band around the black electrical tape too. (just extra protection)
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Post by toni on Nov 29, 2009 16:07:14 GMT -5
The more that can send in some of their specimens, the more we see if we all have the same things growing inside our skin - plus it's the way to know what's growing in the skin.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 29, 2009 18:28:00 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Nov 29, 2009 18:39:53 GMT -5
Too funny Sid!
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Post by zabrubon on Dec 3, 2009 23:18:22 GMT -5
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Post by Sidney on Dec 4, 2009 9:19:23 GMT -5
Speechless.....almost. Think I'll send this to my children hoping to protect my grandchildren.
Thanks, Chicago Bonnie.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 6, 2009 16:51:13 GMT -5
Doing a big Hoppy-Skippy Happy Dance.
Two petri dishes from Natural Link Mold Lab are growing mold.
Dates are November 27 and December 3. The one dated November 27 has only YELLOW growing on it. The one dated December 3, last Thursday, has no yellow. Very strange.
Ye Haw and Merry Christmas.
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Post by zabrubon on Dec 11, 2009 2:39:24 GMT -5
Hey Toni, could you or someone else, that has the Petri Dish experiment going, find someone who does not have Morgellons, with the same blood type and experiment with their samples as well? Could u set them side by side and photograph it? Then, we can all watch and compare, what is normal to what is abnormal. Is that possible? CB
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Post by toni on Dec 11, 2009 11:19:30 GMT -5
Hi CB,
I know what you mean...(that would be a great test).
Maybe we can write these labs testing our specimens mold growths, and ask them (after our results are all in) if these are common growths?
Something I know that's not common, and never has been as far as my specimens are regarded is:
I've never grown white "root looking things (inside) my skin before"... nor had "tiny white" protusions from my pores, which those are some of what my specimens sent in consist of.
One thing I know about my specimens are this.
They are growths from (within my skin). Some are even plucked from within the pores.
Nothing I sent in 'was just scraped' off the outter surface, because I do believe that "would leave too many possibilities" of ( is this in the air)? And could something have just been arbitrarily floating around that landed. I dug deep for my specimens, and literally "plucked growths" to be examined.
So...I'm sure curious as to see what mine comes back with too.
Personally I feel "that had I just had an external skin scraping) that then wouldn't tell me much, because I know everything floats in the air, and anything then is able to land on my skin.
The specimens I've sent (are from growths)...like roots that are within/inside the skin. Which these long white growths literally made a snap sound as they were plucked.
So that's why when I grew what appeared to be Rhizopus stonifer I believe it is, which is a "bread mold"... I learned reading that "this mold particularly is found in immunocompromised people.
So...as for the "crux" of Morgs, that would be impossible to know at this point because of it's basic implications, being "this particular mold" is usually "found after the fact of being ill with something else".
So personally I don't believe my "Morgs is caused by Rhizopus" I do believe my Rhizopus mold (if that's what it is) is caused by something else.
TONS of questions I know....but I suppose us learning as much as we can about what we are finding/discovering by the results might lead in a direction we were unaware of too.
Nothing ventured nothing gained is how the thoughts are going.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 12:33:08 GMT -5
Spores are floating about in the air we breathe. When you watch your local weather reports don't they always speak of the daily mold and pollen count counts reporting them along with the high and low temperature for the day, relative humidity and dewpoint? Sure they do.
In my opinion at any given moment any of us will have mold or pollen on the exterior surface of our skin. That's why a DEEP scraping will reveal much more than a superficial scraping.
Facial or body hair in the affected area can also reveal important clues. Most of us have reported the presence of abnormal appearing hair from our skin or scalp or both.
Sometimes hair plucked from the scalp reveals hair that is flat, ribbony and appears to have absolutely nothing inside it unlike a normal hair which is round with the scales evident when viewed with magnification.
As more people participate in the mold culture experiment more clues will be revealed.
Currently I belive there are fifteen to twenty people involved.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 15:22:51 GMT -5
Chicago Bonnie, sorry but I failed to your idea concerning a Control Group or any person who does not have our disease.
I agree with you this needs doing. I'm planning to order another twenty culture plates from Dr. Abbott's lab, and will be happy to do a scraping on the skin of a family member who has never exhibited signs or symptoms.
When we did the Study in Oklahoma during the summer of 2000, we each arrived having had a fresh shower and shampoo and allowed our skin and hair to air-dry.
Preparation for the scrapings were meticulous. Ethyl Alcohol was applied to gauze wipes and our skin was cleaned thoroughly before the scrapings were done.
Scrapings were deep enough to create a major abrasion and a show of blood.
If you've read the NPA publilcation of July 2004, you may remember the findings included fungal spores. I'll have to re-read the paper again, but spores as well as Collembola were found.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 16:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Dec 11, 2009 17:42:13 GMT -5
Jeany and I sent in our dishes to Dr. Abbott today.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 18:34:20 GMT -5
Thank you, Kammy. Do you remember where the list of people participating is located? I have no idea.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 20:00:24 GMT -5
MORGELLONS PATIENTS PARTICIPATING IN THE NATURAL MOLD LINK EXPERIMENT as of 12-11-09.
Please post your number and name as you participate.
(1) bannanny (2) mercury (3) ruth (4) Sid (5) toni (6) kammy (7) gertie (8) ivanhole (9) jody (10) mr. anonymous (11) Jeany (12) Freaky (13) PPY 18 (14) Binarky (15) L.W. Texas)
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Post by ruth on Dec 11, 2009 23:08:30 GMT -5
sid, only my results back? did you call the lab today? they don't seem to mind.
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Post by Sidney on Dec 11, 2009 23:56:13 GMT -5
I'm always terrified of any of us wearing out our welcome. I've seen good doctors and scientists driven away by too many phone calls and correspondence from desperate sufferers, so no, I have not called them.
I haven't heard a word and they've had my dish eight working days. If I don't hear by Monday I will call, but I don't want to be labeled a pest and nuisance, so I've just left them alone.
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