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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 18:12:17 GMT -5
Excellent find! Maybe just another piece in a sequence of links to the whole ball of wax. I've wondered whether this soil exposure is the final piece that sets the rest in motion. If agro is attracted to plants (hence the term "agro"), and if we have plant material in us, then that may be why the agro goes after us and not after other people (SUNY studies found agro on all Morgellons patients, but not on any of the non-infected controls). Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 17:51:33 GMT -5
Prev - Bingo on the Bill Joy article. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 17:47:00 GMT -5
Ed & Suebe - Just prior to the launch of the CDC investigation, MRF was meeting with the CDC. I am NOT wrong about the statements on the MRF home page regarding the black specks and the dna analysis they had conducted. They were not willing to share the results of that study with the readers, and it is my speculation that they DID share the results with the CDC during those meetings. I do not doubt the historical integrity of the foundation, in particular their statements regarding the "disengenousness" of the CDC (they have since dropped that description). What I AM saying is that they HAVE learned more in the past 6 months than they are willing to share openly. Don't forget - I paid $1400 for that "Your dna has been hyjacked" bit from one of the MDs on the board. I will fax the charges to anyone who doubts what I am saying. And as you are aware, there have been problems within that group, including one doctor losing his medical license, Dr. Wymore quitting the position as head of research due to differences internally, problems regarding handling of finances - all of this is readily available by googling. Overall, I DO believe that their "heart is in the right place" but I also believe that they not forthcoming regarding recent findings. I stand on that position. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 14:03:23 GMT -5
Sky, Prev, etc - I apologize - I don't have a computer at home and have to go to the library, so I'm just getting all these posts. Sky - why don't you call me, or let me know how to call you? As I said, the MRF kept commenting about the black specks on their home page, periodically updating it. When the "results were in" they said something like they are "inconclusive" and then never mentioned again. Yes, MRF knows much more than they want to let out. They were cozy with the CDC a few months ago - wonder if they shared their info with them. Maybe they didn't have to, ya' know? Bessie ps - It's 3 pm EST. I'll try to use another computer in about 3 or 4 hours.
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 13:31:14 GMT -5
Godsgrace - When you went in for accupuncture, what symptoms did you report? I know there are many different ways of doing this, and I'm game for most anything within my rapidly depleting budget. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 13:27:04 GMT -5
Greeneyes - Your point is well taken. Don't assume anything when considering symptoms with this monster. Example - I had a live blood analysis done and it showed a moderate amount of fungus in my blood. Then I read Cliff Mickleson's stuff about fungus in the blood - and guess what - it's NANO fungus, not real fungus (his, anyway - maybe mine, too). I can't recall the procedure used to determine this, but if you google him you'll find it somewhere. Dr. S suggested my doctor here in FL do the same thing to determine it - I think she got so freaked out she wouldn't even consider it! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 29, 2008 13:18:19 GMT -5
I do not have heat/cold insensitivity, but I have read that it can be a symptom of M's. The interpretation is that it roams around the nervous system and creates MS-like symptoms. But like everything else about this monster, who the hell knows... Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 20:45:56 GMT -5
Probably don't want to scare everybody....like we aren't already scared to death....
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 20:41:16 GMT -5
Prevenge - I'm sure I missed your point - I think there were several - but so ethereal I can't follow. Go for crispness! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 20:37:48 GMT -5
Dora!!! Happy, happy birthday! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 20:07:02 GMT -5
Prevenge - Belief and trust in God does not exclude personal responsibility and the evolution of the person. "Faith without works is dead". Down the street from me is St. Lukes Hospital, one of the best hospitals in the world for eyes. The founder, Dr. James Gills (now in his 80's) still performs surgery, is a triathlete, and has written 14 books, mostly on the interface between Christianity and science/medicine, and a couple on physical fitness. He doesn't sit around the computer smoking cigarettes hoping God will help him. Nor do most. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 19:27:16 GMT -5
Late last fall, a couple of months after learning my "affliction" through researching online - as all of you did, I am sure - I first found the MRF. The first page described this as being caused by "an unknown organism". Shoot, I at first thought i was on to a "cure". Right. A couple of weeks later, there was a statement like "many structures are found in the skin of Morgellons patients, but we are most interested in the black specks". Later, "a dna analysis of the black specks is being conducted"; then "the results of the dna analysis are 'inconclusive'". Then NOTHING. No more mention of them. I was getting sicker and sicker, had about 200 lesions that came about in a short period of time. Couldn't eat, etc - you know the deal. Was sure I was going to die - BUT! I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS KILLING ME before I exited this world. So I called one of the MD's on the MRF board for a phone consult (less than 1/2 hour, $875.00, overcharged by about $250). He danced around as I honed in the the statements from the MRF, evasive, trying to deny the statements that were posted, etc. I hammered away at him (my dime !) because that was the ONLY thing I wanted from him - WHAT IS KILLING ME? He then blurted out "Your DNA has been hyjacked!!". I saw all the changes that were occuring with my body, hair, skin, etc - I had no doubt he was telling the truth. Being as sick as I was, and somewhat shocked at his candor and the way he released the info, I didn't press for more - probably wouldn't have gotten it, anyway. He did say a few more things, like "you can grow anything anywhere - teeth, hair" and some other stuff. I wish I'd recorded every word. I don't remember the rest of the conversation - I only wanted to know about the black specks. Now, the rest of the information came from another source a couple of months later, and I can't say more about that now. But the info about all these genetic snips being in us came as no surprise at all. I had been thinking along those lines, anyway, because of the "imitations" of so many different things I found coming out of me. Legs of bugs, sprouts, live bugs, larva-looking things - on & on. Many more details I won't discuss now. And that's also when I learned that the black specks are the STARTER structure that is assembled from the MEMs using the ingredients found in our bodies. Sure, I knew that, too - I'd found too many black specks that were in the process of growing things - mostly the larva looking things, but other things also. But still, there are many more aspects to this that are not yet uncovered. But what intrigues (and scares) me the most is the serpentine images found - on the diatoms, and also on the skin (see Jan Smith's website where a picture of a callous removed from her foot is posted). This "signature" is probably elsewhere. I "believe" men created this, but when men involve themselves with the darkest of evil, voluntarily, they invite the demons in their work. I believe this with all my heart, and this is why I think prayer is one of the most important things we can do in fighting this. So God Bless you all - even you, Prevenge - even though you have doubts! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 28, 2008 14:54:11 GMT -5
The infecting agent contains plasmids of a variety of "things" - plants, insects, stuff from the sea - MANY things. I'm guessing that agrobacteria is attracted to us because we are part plant. And agro - a bioengineered organism - injects it's host with it's own DNA and causes tumors in plants. A doctor from MRF told me that "your dna has been hyjacked". Cost me $1,400 for that "leak". Guys, this was deliberately put together in a laboratory, and it is the most demonic conspiracy the world has ever known. It is sprayed from the sky, maybe also in medicines/vaccinations. The MOST benign interpretation is that it is "experimentation". Makes Hitler look like Mr. Rogers. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 27, 2008 15:52:30 GMT -5
Right - sorry - Madonna. But you have to dumb it down. So - these huge craft are meant to clean up CAR ACCIDENTS? But it's a big military secret? I watch all the UFO shows I can - esp on the History channel - and there are several experts who appear on many of these shows who have been tracking this stuff for MANY years - they disagree with you. Do you really think we have a craft the size of a football field that takes 5 minutes to go over a house from about 30 feet up? So how is it we have so many problems with our space shuttles - "disinformation" - goodbye Sally Ride? I think you are giving the "people" who control us far too much credit for intelligence. Did you know that Furby toys were not allowed at work (I think it was the National Security Council - brain fog here) because the honchos were nervous about their capacity to "learn". And I don't know WHO or WHAT is going to save this mess - global warming, dying bees, dying bats, GMOs, famine - maybe no one, huh? I'm betting on God. And MAYBE he'll send something quite unusual in His place. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 27, 2008 12:49:11 GMT -5
By the way, Cooper was a former military intelligence officer - he predicted a major "thinning" of the population, spoke of secret societies running things, and had a lot to say about ufo's and aliens. Here is a video of him speaking: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-729985813912005672And then he was murdered. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 27, 2008 12:43:41 GMT -5
Sky & Prev - No question, there is much disinformation - but it cuts both ways. When they are working on something they don't want us to know about - it's "alien". BUT, when it's alien, it's "baloons" and "flares", etc. Have you ever looked closely at the background in the Mona Lisa? Was our military doing stuff then? Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 27, 2008 12:37:36 GMT -5
Sky - I'd been looking into MEMS and smartdust awhile ago, just to confirm that the technology is MORE than there to accomplish this horror. The proliferation of this technology is more than even a group of people can chase. I even found a BREATH SPRAY in a "health food store" using nanotechnology!!! Does it seem like the entire world is CRAZY? Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 27, 2008 12:28:49 GMT -5
Sidney - I'm with you - I am totally fedup with the researchers not working together, sharing everything they know. Or rejecting the findings of another researcher because they "aren't mainstream". Maintream? Oh, like this f'd up mess is mainstream, right? It's almost as though they don't/can't see what is emerging down the road. You'd think they'd be DYING to collaborate - if only to share their own butts! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 26, 2008 15:42:55 GMT -5
Bannan - Yes, i was kidding! Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 26, 2008 15:38:54 GMT -5
Prev - I don't agree. I don't think Joe was joking. And I've been paying much closer attention to these phenomena since my personal nightmare began. If I can wrap my mind around THIS horror show, then anything is possible. Did you see the films of the Jan Texas sightings and interviews with the observers? It's for real... Bessie
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