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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 13, 2009 11:43:30 GMT -5
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Post by toni on May 13, 2009 12:31:47 GMT -5
Then be my guest and explain the darts I'm (and others) are plucking out.
This is not (fact) that we have slugs, it's a ((((possibility)))) as slugs DO shoot darts and that is only going on what I have physically in hand, on my slide, that appear to be involved....because to date, I've not seen anything else that fits the bill.
This "train of thought of possibility" is no different than:
GMO Chemtrails Nano technology Etc...
Because we don't know. So why are you so ready to shun this?
And, what we do know, IS what we see, and the darts are physically present. Which is "what they look like in our/my opinion", as well as an experts I've just received a reply from.
So if you have some other information that these "dart looking objects that are stuck in the skin may be then " PLEASE express and elaborate, because I am MORE than willing and able to dig and read and send off specimens and mails to anyone in the world, as much as I can to find out what they might else be.
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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 13, 2009 12:38:45 GMT -5
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Post by toni on May 13, 2009 12:40:39 GMT -5
AH HA!
I think I know you don't I?
Send me an email okay?
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Post by ctbarb on May 13, 2009 12:42:39 GMT -5
Dear acacianimmolation,
YES, I agree with you that it has to STOP! However, I have live, living slugs in my body that have come out and are very REAL! I have also had beetles too...this is fact, this too is REAL!
Please, open your mind and listen to those of us who are experiencing this horrific disease and pray that you do not get the same thing...trust me, it is not the least bit pleasant. I am being eaten alive by these things...the cutting is clearly seen on other organisms...like it was cut by a knife. That alone should be more than enough to initiate investigation.
I accept other folks' opinions, but this is not an opinion on my part...I am living it, and IT IS VERY REAL! Do I want to die because of the lack of information and lack of investigative methods by the medical community - NO! I worked as a microbiologist for many years, along side my husband who worked for the EPA. I'm not a novice in this field...nor am I one to panic at the sight of a bug coming from my body...I am merely stating the FACTS of what I see and feel...I have the proof, although the skeptics in this world, refuse to look - afraid of what they might see.
ctbarb
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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 13, 2009 13:07:11 GMT -5
you THINK you have beetles and organisms.
I thought at one time I had actual bugs coming out of me. they were just coincidences... the feeling of "bugs" ..combined with the "presence" of actual bugs. they are not one and the same. the actual sensation is pranah.. it is kundalini flowing through your nadis.. you will learn soon enough..
no bugs.
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Post by ctbarb on May 13, 2009 14:17:08 GMT -5
And IMHO, this is BS flowing from your mouth! But what do I know? I only THINK that it is so.....
I'm done with this time-wasting discussion.
Thank you.
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Post by violet on May 13, 2009 14:25:36 GMT -5
you THINK you have beetles and organisms. I thought at one time I had actual bugs coming out of me. they were just coincidences... the feeling of "bugs" ..combined with the "presence" of actual bugs. they are not one and the same. the actual sensation is pranah.. it is kundalini flowing through your nadis.. you will learn soon enough.. no bugs. - You're weird.
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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 13, 2009 14:44:55 GMT -5
you THINK you have beetles and organisms. I thought at one time I had actual bugs coming out of me. they were just coincidences... the feeling of "bugs" ..combined with the "presence" of actual bugs. they are not one and the same. the actual sensation is pranah.. it is kundalini flowing through your nadis.. you will learn soon enough.. no bugs. - You're weird. If "I" am the one who is "weird" .. the one that once thought that he had bugs coming out of him, and yet realizes that he does not have bugs coming out of him? That makes me "weird?" What makes someone "weird"? .. bugs coming out of them... or them realizing that they.. do not have bugs coming out of them? I guess in the morgellons community, having no bugs coming out of you is "weird" compared to... not having bugs coming out of you. shall I now be ostricized if I reject the idea of "bugs" ? now? if you do some honest research and look into KUNDALINI ... you may find that the symptomatic examples are completely identical to that which you are experiencing ... going through what you've titled "Morgellons". I don't appreciate being called "weird" by you. just as I am sure you do not appreciate being called "weird" by doctors or the medical practice at large... that do not understand morgellons OR Kundalini either... -
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Post by violet on May 13, 2009 14:57:38 GMT -5
If "I" am the one who is "weird" .. the one that once thought that he had bugs coming out of him, and yet realizes that he does not have bugs coming out of him? That makes me "weird?" What makes someone "weird"? .. bugs coming out of them... or them realizing that they.. do not have bugs coming out of them? I guess in the morgellons community, having no bugs coming out of you is "weird" compared to... not having bugs coming out of you. shall I now be ostricized if I reject the idea of "bugs" ? now? if you do some honest research and look into KUNDALINI ... you may find that the symptomatic examples are completely identical to that which you are experiencing ... going through what you've titled "Morgellons". I don't appreciate being called "weird" by you. just as I am sure you do not appreciate being called "weird" by doctors or the medical practice at large... that do not understand morgellons OR Kundalini either... - It's okay. We're all weird in our own way. Especially us Morgies.
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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 13, 2009 15:08:26 GMT -5
so violet.. are you unequivocally convinced that you have bugs coming out of you and that the process you're experiencing.. in NO way whatsoever.. can be explained in any way except as "bugs" ?
and if anyone explained it in any other way.. would you look at them and call them "weird" for doing so?
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Post by violet on May 13, 2009 15:19:25 GMT -5
so violet.. are you unequivocally convinced that you have bugs coming out of you and that the process you're experiencing.. in NO way whatsoever.. can be explained in any way except for "bug" ? and if anyone explained it in any other way.. would you look at them and call them "weird" for doing so? - I'm not one who has had the bugs coming out of me, nor do I think they are in me, and I've never said so. But I know that there are truly others on this site who are experiencing awful things, such as that. I've put a lot of weight into Dr. Wymore's recent post on this site. He's the researcher who is dedicated to studying what in the world is going on in us that is causing Morgellons, by good scientific methods and thinking. It's interesting, and you might want to look it up. And no--I don't automatically think someone is weird if they have some ideas that are different than mine. It was your presentation that was kind of way out there. I couldn't and still can't figure out what in the world you were talking about. It was like throwing words at us from outer space. Non-sensical. Couldn't make heads nor tails of it. I know what it is like to be considered weird, as I have a deep faith in Christ, and many things that I've said on this site probably sound very strange to people who are not familiar with Christianity. I try very hard to be respectful in what I say, explain myself as best I can, not be judgmental, and definitely not push Him on anyone.
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Post by suebe on May 13, 2009 16:06:43 GMT -5
acacianimmolation, I'm wondering why you felt it so important to change the topic of this post, it's about Barbs specimen. I see you started a post and I intend to read it as I want to know what on earth you may be talking about. I must also share with you that I've had, as well as my son had, bugs parts, whole, spring tails, hump back flies, mites, slugs, spiders and many different types of bugs come out of our skin. Why is that so hard for science and naysayers to believe? This has been going on with our live stock forever, something has changed in us so that they can and do breed & live under our skin. Please jump out of the box. I've not had any bugs under my skin in about 2 years now I'd guess. I was treated for Morgellons, got to a place where I could live with the symptoms. However I still have it, each time I feel that crawling, stinging, I remind myself how lucky I am to have made it past that "full blown" stage where I prayed for death every night because of the intense suffering. Who knows, hopefully one day soon my friends in this group will find the answers, but who knows what this is? I sure don't. I do know my son had it. He was diagnosed with a mass in his ileum several years ago. By the time we reached the cancer hospital IT WAS GONE. A few years later he was diagnosed with brain cancer, he died in 2006 from Morgellons/Brain Cancer. Did the mass move from his ileum to his brain? Now I'm diagnosed with lung cancer, will it move to another part of my body? Who knows? I do know this. I'm scared to death for my friends who suffer this horror. Once it makes it's way into our body do we all get cancer? I'm scared, I want answers for them. You said at one point you had bugs in your skin, now you feel you past that. I would ask you to get screened for cancer ASAP. My child as he lay dying had holes that would appear in his body after silversorb was dressed on his lesions, the next day (and the nurse we had was witness to this) there would be a hole as deep and around as a pencil into his body. And we would find ropes of tightly wove fibers the size of pencils in his bed. This is a very real horror. At first when I ran by your post I thought "wonderful" someone who supports us. I will go read your post but , Now I wonder why on earth you are here. Can I ask?
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Post by zabrubon on May 13, 2009 17:27:14 GMT -5
Proverbs 14:12
There is a way that seems right to a person, but eventually it ends in death
14:1 A woman who has no fear of God, who is wilful and wasteful, and indulges her ease, will as certainly ruin her family, as if she plucked her house down. 2. Here are grace and sin in their true colours. Those that despise God's precepts and promises, despise God and all his power and mercy. 3. Pride grows from that root of bitterness which is in the heart. The root must be plucked up, or we cannot conquer this branch. The prudent words of wise men get them out of difficulties. 4. There can be no advantage without something which, though of little moment, will affright the indolent. 5. A conscientious witness will not dare to represent anything otherwise than according to his knowledge. 6. A scorner treats Divine things with contempt. He that feels his ignorance and unworthiness will search the Scriptures in a humble spirit. 7. We discover a wicked man if there is no savour of piety in his discourse. 8. We are travellers, whose concern is, not to spy out wonders, but to get to their journey's end; to understand the rules we are to walk by, also the ends we are to walk toward. The bad man cheats himself, and goes on in his mistake. 9. Foolish and profane men consider sin a mere trifle, to be made light of rather than mourned over. Fools mock at the sin-offering; but those that make light of sin, make light of Christ. 10. We do not know what stings of conscience, or consuming passions, torment the prosperous sinner. Nor does the world know the peace of mind a serious Christian enjoys, even in poverty and sickness. 11. Sin ruins many great families; whilst righteousness often raises and strengthens even mean families. 12. The ways of carelessness, of worldliness, and of sensuality, seem right to those that walk in them; but self-deceivers prove self-destroyers. See the vanity of carnal mirth. 14. Of all sinners backsliders will have the most terror when they reflect on their own ways. 15. Eager readiness to believe what others say, has ever proved mischievous. The whole world was thus ruined at first. The man who is spiritually wise, depends on the Saviour alone for acceptance. He is watchful against the enemies of his salvation, by taking heed to God's word. 16. Holy fear guards against every thing unholy. 17. An angry man is to be pitied as well as blamed; but the revengeful is more hateful. 14:18. Sin is the shame of sinners; but wisdom is the honour of the wise. 19. Even bad men acknowledge the excellency of God's people. 20. Friendship in the world is governed by self-interest. It is good to have God our Friend; he will not desert us. 21. To despise a man for his employment or appearance is a sin. 22. How wisely those consult their own interest, who not only do good, but devise it! 23. Labour of the head, or of the hand, will turn to some good account. But if men's religion runs all out in talk and noise, they will come to nothing. 24. The riches of men of wisdom and piety enlarge their usefulness. 25. An upright man will venture the displeasure of the greatest, to bring truth to light. 26,27. Those who fear the Lord so as to obey and serve him, have a strong ground of confidence, and will be preserved. Let us seek to this Fountain of life, that we may escape the snares of death. 28. Let all that wish well to the kingdom of Christ, do what they can, that many may be added to his church. 29. A mild, patient man is one that learns of Christ, who is Wisdom itself. Unbridled passion is folly made known. 30. An upright, contented, and benevolent mind, tends to health. 31. To oppress the poor is to reproach our Creator. 32. The wicked man has his soul forced from him; he dies in his sins, under the guilt and power of them. But godly men, though they have pain and some dread of death, have the blessed hope, which God, who cannot lie, has given them. 33. Wisdom possesses the heart, and thus regulates the affections and tempers. 34. Piety and holiness always promote industry, sobriety, and honesty. 35. The great King who reigns over heaven and earth, will reward faithful servants who honour his gospel by the proper discharge of the duties of their stations: he despises not the services of the lowest.
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Post by friskers on May 14, 2009 1:38:43 GMT -5
Im familiar with kundulini energy and have read up on it years ago and do beleive Ive experienced that kind of energy pulsating through my spine but I dont beleive that is what is happening to me now with the symptoms I have. But if thats whats happening to you then enjoy it and good luck to you!' I dont beleive we have a right to judge this person for beleiving that . But maybe if you werent so forceful in your beleifs you would be better received Here ACA.......
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Post by freaky on May 14, 2009 3:35:16 GMT -5
Y'all are so appropriate. I have a hard time with that. Maybe when I get a little older. I didn't mean to be judgmental. I just don't appreciate New Member, and would prefer new member slither back into the hole she squeezed out of. Please excuse. I'm sorry. That wasn't very nice.
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Post by violet on May 14, 2009 9:51:24 GMT -5
Im familiar with kundulini energy and have read up on it years ago and do beleive Ive experienced that kind of energy pulsating through my spine but I dont beleive that is what is happening to me now with the symptoms I have. But if thats whats happening to you then enjoy it and good luck to you!' I dont beleive we have a right to judge this person for beleiving that . But maybe if you werent so forceful in your beleifs you would be better received Here ACA....... Well said. New Member, is there something we can help you with? I don't mean that in a condescending way, either. I really mean it. We tend to be very open here on our board, and I believe that is because we are grounded in love, acceptance and trust. If you would open up to us more--and without attacking us--there are some of us who would like to help. What can we do?
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Post by friskers on May 14, 2009 22:21:20 GMT -5
Y'all are so appropriate. I have a hard time with that. Maybe when I get a little older. I didn't mean to be judgmental. I just don't appreciate New Member, and would prefer new member slither back into the hole she squeezed out of. Please excuse. I'm sorry. That wasn't very nice. Freaky how funny because I was just going to say"that wasnt very nice" LOL but you aleady added it to post in an edit.! ;D i know this person has upset people here but I do think if you knew more about the situation you wouldnt feel so angry about it. yes there was some hijacking of the thread that could be considered rude but honestly I think the posters intentions were good , just my perception anyway. Im not in agreement with it but I do beleive kundulini is a very real energy , not morgs in my case anyway.
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Post by ed on May 14, 2009 22:47:16 GMT -5
ah......... bugs alive. Ed
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Post by ivanhole on May 15, 2009 3:27:00 GMT -5
hey acaciondude - where do you get off saying what is and isn't coming anyone's body but yours? so what you thought you had bugs once but realize now you didn't? what? are you a real life DOP? well how do you do? pardon me, but your pushy and rude reasons to interrupt this thread really gives me like, a MORGELLONSWATCH hangover. you sound just like them. and, in fact, you sound just like my dermatologist. ugh... i'm no moderator, but if i were i would tell you to start your own thread re: KUNDALINI and your experiences with it. so, getting back to toni's thread. toni, i too have had numerous 'slug like' things come out of my body. and i mean i literally rubbed the one pictured from out of my inner thigh. i could feel the lump, and i just worked it out of the skin. it was kind of cool but weird. it was about 10mm roundish. a week after this emerged, i had dozens of the same except they were much smaller. the blob had structure and when i poked it with an incense stick, its skin popped back like the pillsbury doughboy. it looked like it had a tail or fin of sorts. the bottom of it was like a suction cup. if you look at the pic closely, it seems to have like, blueish membranes - probably just blue fiber. i don't know, maybe it looks like some sort of slug. that thought had never crossed my mind. what i do know, slug or not, it emerged directly from my inner thigh. there was no coincidences or 'what ifs'. it came from my body. anyone else have anything like this?: -- so toni, barb, do you think this is a 'slugbug'?
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