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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2009 15:41:43 GMT -5
Violet, The bismuth subgallate is a "topical" product. It heals raw sores/lesions from being a big dime size raw oozing spot, to a tiny pin dot scab. The Stromectol/Ivermectin is an internal "antiparasitical". I'm sorry I'm not really sure what you mean?
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Post by violet on Jun 11, 2009 16:20:51 GMT -5
Violet, The bismuth subgallate is a "topical" product. It heals raw sores/lesions from being a big dime size raw oozing spot, to a tiny pin dot scab. The Stromectol/Ivermectin is an internal "antiparasitical". I'm sorry I'm not really sure what you mean? :-) Mea culpa! What I meant was whether it was the Bismuth products (internal and external) that were as effective for you as the Ivermection/Stromectol? You had mentioned that you found some natural products as effective as medications...
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2009 20:33:22 GMT -5
Mea culpa (that's okay) just wasn't sure. Gosh, the most equivant supplements I take that match the power of the Iver/strom is many actually. I guess the best way to describe them is (spice supplements). Ground Cumin Clove things of that nature. Now I have added to all the supplements a new one (been on it about 2 months now) it's called Para-Key and Verma Plus from www.unikeyhealth.comBut...even before I began taking the (unikeyhealth.com) supplements, which I began "natural things in 06" till just two months ago which is when I added the Para Key to the list, I've been pretty good about being able to ward off new morgs lesions with just the (spice type supplements). I have the tinture-verma plus and the capsules called Para Key. It seems that an array (imho) of "spice type supplements" seem to do the best. Now I will say, on the (full moons) like a few days ago that we just had, oh....I was having the crawlies something awful...like standing in an ant pile, my legs had the crawlies in the worst way. But once I get into a hot shower, and wash with (Palmolive ANTI-BACTERIAL dish soap) it all goes away! (instantly too) I believe (the bacterial component) of Morgs is best treated "externally" with anti bacterials. And the spicy type supplements help internally. I believe the reason for the "internal herbs *spice types*" help so much is because they're cumulative, the longer one takes them, the more they fight bacterial contaminants. I don't think though they're enough to knock out Morgs completely though, or...I'm re-contaminating somehow (which I believe happens) too. As for the Bismuth Subgallate (internal tablets) yes, those imho help when added to the rest of the regime. I don't know why or how...but it's all working to give relief. I have energy of 10 people daily, but I attribute that to this...seriously: Schiff Brand Super B Complex with added B-12. If I miss a day (or Mr T misses a day) of those ...he TOO feels the drag. Our top vitamin (for energy) really is one of those supplements along with a Milk Thistle. Then the rest of the "healthy herb spice supplements".
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Post by ctbarb on Jun 11, 2009 22:51:21 GMT -5
No, Kammy I have not been out of the country; however, I was in Miami! That's just like being out of the country...I was at the Miami Airport for more than 4 hours just prior to getting sick with pneumonia. In fact, I was visiting my son when I fell ill and decided to leave early to get back home. Good thing too, I was hospitalized a couple of days later with 104F for 8 straight days! Then things really started to happen! And unfortunately, it's been happening ever since, and with great vigor I might add. The one thing that I did have while there was fresh picked crabmeat! I stuffed lobsters with it and then baked them. I know it was thoroughly cooked, perhaps the crabmeat was infected with more than a little "punch"? But, unless it was Salmonella, (and it wasn't), it couldn't have reacted so quickly...there is an incubation period and it could have been dormant for quite some time. So, I either picked something up that my infected system was waiting for to complete its life cycle or, it happened spontaneously. I go with the former. What is most interesting though, there's more than one type of slug that I'm producing...and that would be rather inconsistent, unless it was intentional... In order to become contaminated by slugs, you don't have to touch the creature itself, you can become infected from the slime trail...unwashed vegetables and fruits for instance...or even if they are washed, but not thoroughly. I wash everything with baking soda, it breaks the hold the slime has on the produce. I usually let things soak in cold water with lots of baking soda for at least 15-30 minutes and then wash it thoroughly. Any broken skin or blemished areas, even a pinprick size, and out it goes! Just by removing a blemish from the produce does not mean that the invader is not there and has already contaminated the produce. Don't take chances! There are too many things in the "cocktail" to take a chance. Hugs, ctbarb
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Post by violet on Jun 12, 2009 17:13:00 GMT -5
Thanks, Toni, for your reply to my question about your natural treatments/supplements. I'll bet I've already asked you about 10 times (haven't I!?)... :-)
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Post by toni on Jun 12, 2009 21:23:13 GMT -5
Anytime.
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 7:33:39 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 7:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 7:39:37 GMT -5
www.cardiorenew.com/calcium.php?gclid=CJ2KnbDjiZsCFRKIxwodwnEZoQ" These buildups from calcium can be removed with oral chelation therapy. This treatment works by binding the calcium in the deposits, creating a compound that can easily be removed from the body. Joints where buildups occurred feel looser, and arterial blockages can also be cleared by the body. The inflammation of tissues that attracts the buildup is also lessened by the body’s natural processes. Many people find that chelation helps a variety of conditions. EDTA chelation therapy is an effective, at home method of taking chelation therapy, which was formerly only available in costly intra-venous treatments. Many people will find that a six-week program of daily chelation intake provides their bodies with the jumpstart needed to get on the road to better health. With moderate exercise and a balanced diet, oral chelation is a safe treatment that will not interfere with many medicines you may be taking for other conditions. Learn more about Cardio Renew in our chelation therapy FAQ."
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 7:42:24 GMT -5
yoplait.com/health_calcium.aspx?WT.mc_id=paid_search_300400_636117&WT.srch=1Calcium Content of Selected Foods Food Amount Calcium (mg) Dairy Products Milk 1 cup 300 Yogurt, Yoplait®, lowfat 6 ounces 190 – 230 Cheese 1 ounce 150 – 225 Pudding, cooked 1/2 cup 150 Frozen yogurt, nonfat 1/2 cup 110 Ice cream or ice milk 1/2 cup 100 Cottage cheese 1/2 cup 75 Fruits and Vegetables Orange juice, calcium-fortified 1 cup 300 Rhubarb (cooked with sugar) 1/2 cup 175 Turnip greens, cooked 1/2 cup 125 Spinach, cooked 1/2 cup 120 Broccoli, cooked 1/2 cup 90 Orange 1 medium 50 Grains and Other Foods Rice, calcium-fortified 1/2 cup 300 Whole Wheat Total® cereal 1/2 cup 250 Molasses, blackstrap 1 Tbsp 170 Oatmeal, fortified, instant 3/4 cup 165 Tofu 1/2 cup 130 Almonds 1/4 cup 95
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 12:16:14 GMT -5
THE ALGAE/NEMATODE/SNAIL CONNECTION QUOTE=Jeany Kam*%*,
There ya go! Here's the connection between algae, nematodes and snails!!Marine SnailsIn the wild, snails can be algae eaters (algivores), predators, scavengers, and even parasites. The Cypraea, Littorina, and Haliotis species are primarily algae eaters. hmm, we need to look those up? Jeany
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 12:18:25 GMT -5
www.hintsandthings.co.uk/kennel/pests.htmSnails don't like Vaseline in nature, they will not cross it - go around it, etc. I recommend trying the Liver/Gallbladder flush - which is olive oil to flush them out. The recipe was posted last week.
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 12:32:42 GMT -5
Interesting article: www.caringforyourcat.info/healthcare/parasites.htm"The intermediate host of the lungworm is the slug or snail, which can be eaten by cats. However, its more likely that they will first be eaten by birds or rodents and the infective larvae reach the cat through eating them. But infestation is rare. After a complicated journey through the cat's intestine and lymph nodes, the larvae become adult worms, which may enter the lungs via the bloodstream. As a result, respiratory symptoms occur, similar to bronchitis or pneumonia." blog.mycology.cornell.edu/?p=106
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Post by kammy on Jun 14, 2009 12:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by lilac on Jul 10, 2009 5:19:57 GMT -5
Hello Everyone! I've had chronic lyme many years and now Morgellons. Im new to this forum and very grateful to be here! You all seem like helpful, knowledgeable and lovely folks. Love Lilac
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Post by toni on Jul 10, 2009 7:56:29 GMT -5
Hi Lilac, We're all happy to meet you! And I'm sorry you've got lyme and Morgellons. How are you faring? And just wondering about this thread you pulled up, have you seen things that look like this too? Thanks Lilac
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Post by ANTHILL on Jul 10, 2009 11:30:20 GMT -5
Welcome to lymebusters lilac,
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Post by mercury on Jul 11, 2009 6:21:37 GMT -5
Lilac, good to meet you. Stick around, great folks here! All the best, Merc
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