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Post by Acacian Immolation on May 15, 2009 3:51:40 GMT -5
//sigh//...
didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. you'll understand someday.
just remember that there are TWO groups of people in this world experiencing the exact same symptoms.
one group researches their symptoms at the onset, and by the luck of the draw comes across kundalini forums discussing how to get through the twitching, vibrations, magnetic and electrical sensations, psychological changes, chakra sensations.. , seeing light flashes, hearing buzzing and exacerbated tinnitus, skin changes, massive bodily detoxification as toxins are pushed out of the skin (black specs)and talk with people that know how to deal with it.. and they get through it with help from those people.
the other group by the luck of the draw come across morgellons boards and join this nightmarish depiction.. perception of what it is.
both camps actually know very little of one another.
more study needs to be done on the physiological actuality of the kundalini transformation.
in the future, after a massive medical system overhaul, you'll see morgellons scientific research and kundalini research eventually merge into one study of human evolution.
but yeah.. when your body is completely metamorphosing into the higher new human, you're gonna see things that look like slugs and stuff, as debris falls off and flesh changes.
just as the average joe will not believe you about your morgellons, morgellons people have just as hard a time understanding that this "kundalini on steroids from byssus" is really what they're going through.
all in due time.
I can't wait for that film to come out though. gonna be real powerful.
as you were... didn't mean to step on anybody's toes.. just trying to help... (I'm weird like that)
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Post by ed on May 15, 2009 7:26:33 GMT -5
ah........... bugs alive.. .Ed
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Post by toni on May 15, 2009 7:45:49 GMT -5
Ivanhole,
GREAT pictures for sure, and YES, I sure have had (slugbug) looking things like that too come out of my skin from rubbbing it.
I sure don't know if or what these are, just trying to find out by sending pictures and video's to the specialists. And I'm glad we're able to picture share because pictures are worth a gazillion words for us to see what we all have coming out of our skin.
In reading, many will retract and "round" themselves out like that (as you have pictured), then they'll elongate themselves, and in their immature state they'll start out white, then turn browish or gray in color as they mature too.
Some are the size of a pin head, and some extremely large.
This is such a new "avenue" for all of us, and well...quite interesting for sure.
Can you give an approx size to that specimen? Like compare it to something? And when you press on it (with a needle sideways) is it squishy/spongy textured like pressing on a raw shrimp?
That's how mine feel...just like I'm pressing on raw shrimp, the same texture.
Thanks Ivanhole.
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Post by toni on May 15, 2009 7:58:52 GMT -5
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Post by believer on May 15, 2009 9:07:16 GMT -5
Where is this place...away from Physchosis...I wanna go.....can I bring my pets? ....and is spelling psychosis correctly a prerequisite to gain entry into said place of bliss?
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Post by ivanhole on May 15, 2009 14:25:35 GMT -5
hey toni, so you can get a better idea of the 'slugbug's' size, here in the first picture, it is in a gem cup. i compare it to a 10mm pearl. your shrimp analogy is accurate, except it was kind of sticky. this second picture was another thing that came from my lower stomach on the same night. it was so different from the goo thing. it was hard and about 1/20th of the size. i failed to mention that these things came out right after i took a baking soda bath.
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Post by toni on May 15, 2009 14:37:48 GMT -5
Incredible!
I'm so glad you've got such great pictures there. Thanks for posting them.
And yes, I do finding it interesting that after we take salt baths or baking soda (sodium) baths, these things express out of our skin more.
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Post by overandover on May 15, 2009 22:12:12 GMT -5
Hi Ivanhole, Wow great pictures, that second one- I hope the sucker got hard cause you killed it ;D Toni Sue (our wonderful researcher have you read anywhere that when slugs die they get hard, just wondering? Hey there NEW ? Member, are ya still in NZ, hope you enjoyed your trip. Maybe still on that trip sweetie Love to all, Suebe
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Post by ctbarb on May 16, 2009 0:00:34 GMT -5
Ivanhole, Toni and All, YES! Those are excellent pix of the slug...the round one appears to be one of the earlier stages of the lifecycle before it lengthens into its mature self. Those little 1/4" slugs are what I cough up all the time...nasty tasting too! Tastes like 'dirty salt' if you can imagine that... Toni, I'm sending you some pix of slugs from over 2 years ago (I think) that I passed in stools...I have had them as big as 2+" long and a good 3/4" wide when they flatten out. Some get larger. I have also vomited some pretty large ones...didn't know at the time what they were - and good thing too - I would have fainted. I think I still have them in a jar someplace in a fridge. And Ivanhole, that dark brownish piece, I cough them up all the time too....they are also in my scalp...just pulled one out today and it hurt like h*ll! In one of the pix that I'm sending you Toni, is a spotted leathery piece of skin (for lack of a better word) and it most likely is the covering of one of these slugs. I have the 'skin' of one that is 3" x 2 1/2" too! When I realized what it was, I thought, "OMG, are they ALL that big?" And you're right about the slime that they expel...that's the mucus that I talked about...I cough this stuff up all the time, it's rather salty tasting, but when it dries, it's hard like plastic...you just can't cut it, scrape it off glass, or anything...even tried other types of solvents, and nothing takes it off! When you get it on your hands, the stuff wants to go back into the skin...it's really difficult to get it off...using antibacterial soap helps a bit, but you have to use baking soda with it and really scrub. This is very interesting that others have this as well...I thought I was the only one! Good thing we communicate like we do! That's how we are going to solve this mystery!!! Note that most of the orgs that we are putting out are all terra firma types...worms, slugs, A. tumefaciens, the bacterium, etc. Just plain ole run of the mill, everyday stuff...just so you wouldn't notice! Will try to find some other photos of this stuff...I can't take a whole pix of an org with my dissecting scope, and my MX5 driver is suddenly missing!!! It just won't stay where it's supposed to. ' Thanks a bunch you guys, we're on a roll here! Luv & hugs, ctbarb
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Post by toni on May 16, 2009 7:47:52 GMT -5
Thanks Suebe. You know, the only thing I know in reading about slugs is if they're subjected to things that will cause them to become suseptible to drying, that will kill them. For them to keep alive, they keep producing that slime mucous...uck, but once that's inhibited, they will dry out. These links are interesting about them too. everything2.com/title/slug%2520slimewww.velvetdragon.com/cyberslugs/realslugs.htmlBarb, Boy, did you ever hit something familar sounding. Yes, our spit/mucous, it sure does turn to like hard (plastic like) and that is like the glue (of snail slime too). I sure don't get it...(about the slugs), but boy do some of the specimens look like slugs! And I really don't understand this either. Barb, your pic here you'd sent me, oh....that too looks like snail "skin" if that's what it's called too. What is the mag on this?
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Post by toni on May 16, 2009 7:55:29 GMT -5
(now this picture of the newly discovered Y-Larva which is a type of slug) may have nothing at all to do with this picture below of barbs picture of a piece of another specimen of hers. I'm only posting these two together (because they seemed similar) but not exact. This is about that (picture above here) ......40 species of y larvae from one site at Sesoko Island near Okinawa, Japan, and exposed many of them to a crustacean moulting-hormone to encourage them to mature. The free-swimming y-larvae shed their articulated exoskeleton, and a simple, slug- like, pulsing mass of cells emerged. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080520090559.htm---------------------------------------------------------------- Pic of another one of Barbs specimens. See....(not exact as the one above) but wanted to compare them. There are over 100,000 species of slugs, so I sure wouldn't know what this is.
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Post by toni on May 16, 2009 8:23:14 GMT -5
Barb, here' is something else that YOU and ME have that to me....looks the SAME - which this to me is scarey because whatever this is...WE have the same thing. Barbs specimen from (coughing up) ABOVE PICTURE (is that correct Barb)-you coughed (this one up)? And this specimen right above this sentence is Toni's that I picked out of my face! They look like the same thing. Please IGNORE the writing as I was only *questioning* these parts.
I wish I'd not had written on this picture, but it's there, and I can't remove it.But BARB...where exactly did yours come from? Because mine was in my skin (face). These two specimens (yours and mine) AGAIN look the same to me. Thanks for sending me this picture, because it shows (consistency) and that is important. PS, if Dr Wymore can tell us more about this specimen, it would be greatly appreciated. I'd sent this to him last year and he replied to me saying ( it has cells). But I have heard nothing further.
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Post by ctbarb on May 16, 2009 15:15:20 GMT -5
Hi Toni and All, The speckled skin photo is at 10x as well as the one that looks like yours Toni...all of these specimens were in my stool. All were quite large too. The "upside down snail looking thing" should be flipped I think...you can actually see the 'foot' of the snail on the topside. I produced these by the hundreds...all sizes. I will send another view of a sample from the same "batch". You're gonna freak out with this one! I produced some more of these, just last week and brought them to the hospital with me............now this thing was over 2" long and at least 1/4" thick.....this is what the ER doc said, "This looks like undigested food...this one is a sliced mushroom for sure." Lady, that's NO mushroom! I haven't eaten a mushroom in years....I have enough fungus in my body, I don't need to add more! Just today, I produced more of the 'speckled skin' in my stool...well there wasn't much stool 'cause I can't eat many solids. Hugs, ctbarb
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Post by toni on May 16, 2009 15:54:44 GMT -5
Barb, WE seem to have the same things coming out of us, just from different places (different ends) actually.
Mine are always from my face.
And I too (just as yours are pictured) are done at the same magnification - 10X.
OMG is all I can say.
And imho also, the "foot" is what I'm thinking too. And the "slime/mucous".
I don't get it, but we can see what we can see right here.
I'm glad you have these to show, and I'm not glad, (you know what I mean)...but we ARE having the same thing happening.
PS) I'm not sure what you mean by what you said-quote: you can see the foot on the topside.
It's to my understanding "the foot" is underneath the top skin (where a shell would be if these were snails) but slugs don't have shells, so the foot is what "ripples" underneath...(like a caterpillar moves sort of) and slimes it's frothy slime, so the slugs can move about and keep them hydrated.
Thanks Barb!
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Post by lilsissy on May 16, 2009 15:57:54 GMT -5
Found this interesting given the claw type organisms reported here, maybe would explain the sudden shooting pain, I am not saying this is the creature but the information here may co-relate, www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc
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Post by lilsissy on May 16, 2009 15:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on May 16, 2009 16:26:38 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on May 16, 2009 16:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by ctbarb on May 16, 2009 16:56:30 GMT -5
Thanks! Lilsisy and all...yes I've looked at the trematodes for quite awhile now...I have many that look similar. Am sending some claw pix to Toni in the next few minutes. I'm having a really tough day.....putting out new ones by the hour! The pain in my chest is almost too much to take.....I was OK for awhile (an hour or so) then I ate some crackers and cheese, and all h*ll broke loose! The swelling reappeared (and it was down this AM), and is biting, and moving - more like fluttering actually constantly. I just took an Oxycontin to help quiet it down. Thanks everyone, you are all really troopers! Love, ctbarb
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Post by ctbarb on May 16, 2009 17:23:42 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/oebf7yLilsissy - I followed your link above a little further and guess what I found? Scroll down to where it shows the Pulmonata snails....the second row, is the exact covering, pattern of the 'speckled, leathery skin' that I have!!! It is EXACT!!!! I have more samples of the tissue - in fact, it's coming out of me like crazy today.... You did it again Gal! Love you guys!!! ctbarb
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