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Post by kammy on Jun 9, 2009 17:54:04 GMT -5
Something else, ( but I'm so not read up on this) but I wanted to share it so anyone can look it up also. They lay ( EGG RIBBONS of all colors ). FACT Not sure of course if this has anything to do with anything. But...It might. And then again, maybe not. Hello? Did we see what these egg ribbons look like yet? Doesn't this sound familiar?
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Post by kammy on Jun 9, 2009 18:18:27 GMT -5
Remember our I. belli friend - the seashell-like critter? Well, what's usually inside a seashell? This is from the I. belli thread by Angela. How does this chart relate to the ones who are having an obvious cycle of symptoms?A different kind of pattern......a symptoms pattern. Those with obvious 'slug' activity - please start charting your symptoms for the rest of us... and see come back later and see how it relates to this chart?
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Post by kammy on Jun 9, 2009 18:35:30 GMT -5
What's the name of this slug, Toni? Where did you find the photo?I enlarged the slug so we can see the pattern on it's side better, and it sure shyte looks like Barbs specimen!
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Post by kammy on Jun 9, 2009 18:42:37 GMT -5
EGG RIBBON OF THE SLUGJeany** sent me this one: Served with an olive in the middle?....
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Post by kammy on Jun 9, 2009 18:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jun 9, 2009 21:02:11 GMT -5
What's the name of this slug, Toni? Where did you find the photo?
Kammy, I'm POSITIVE the link for that slug is on page one of this thread. I try to make sure I always post those links for our references later.
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Post by toni on Jun 9, 2009 21:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 8:47:52 GMT -5
Toni - THAT'S AN EXACT MATCH - WHAT IS IT CALLED?
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 8:49:37 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 15:53:38 GMT -5
It was in the 2nd post, Toni. It is called a Arion subfuscus (dusky arion), or Arion fuscus. Let's see what we can find out about it? Arion fuscus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arion_subfuscus"Arion fuscus is a species of small air-breathing land slug, a terrestrial pulmonate gastropod mollusk in the family Arionidae, the roundback slugs.
Arion subfuscus (Draparnaud, 1805) is considered by some authors to be a partial synonym for Arion fuscus.[1] (For practical purposes the two are synonyms in Germany and in the Czech Republic.)
This species occurs in European countries and islands including:
* Not listed in IUCN red list - not evaluated (NE)[2] * Austria[3] * Bulgaria * Czech Republic - least concern (LC)[4][5] * Germany[6][7] * Netherlands[8] * Poland * Slovakia * Great Britain * Ireland * and other areas
Habitat
This slug lives under fallen logs and under bark in woodland areas, but it also lives in hedges, gardens, pastures and dunes."
AKA - Draparnaud
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 15:57:12 GMT -5
Barb & whoever else showing the same symptoms:
Have you made a trip to any of these countries listed?
Once again, it could have easily been carried here by ship's hulls, ballasts, etc. It could also be a GM version that was created and introduced anywhere, for whatever purpose, IMO. I would assume in our food supply? Anyone?
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 16:09:59 GMT -5
"Snail's Tails" snailstales.blogspot.com/2005/05/colorful-alien-arion-subfuscus.html"The European slug Arion subfuscus comes in different shades of brown, yellow and sometimes even red.
Pilsbry1 gives the location of the first U.S. record of A. subfuscus as Boston and the date as “Before December, 1841”. In gardens, abandoned fields and along the edges of second-growth forests in the northeast U.S., it is now one of the most common introduced slugs, along with Limax maximus, Deroceras reticulatum and Arion intermedius. Unlike Limax and Deroceras, however, both A. subfuscus and A. intermedius penetrate deeper into the woods.
These slugs constitute a part of what is called the “naturalized” fauna of the U.S. Unfortunately, they are here to stay.
1. Pilsbry, H.A. 1948. Land Mollusca of North America (north of Mexico ). Volume 2, part 2, p. 670. Academy of Natural Sciences, Philadelphia.
Posted by AYDIN ÖRSTAN at 11:55"
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Post by kammy on Jun 10, 2009 16:27:00 GMT -5
It seems like we have to weaken their population since no Ivermectin was taken, and I'm not sure about other Health Food Store anti-parasiticals.
There might be some natural herbs that might kill these, too. I just can't tell you which ones, I'll look and see.
Keep doing the salt/C 3 or 4 times a day. You take the 1000 mg Vit C with the salt water. It seems that if you can kill the hatchlings, the babies, the next generation as soon as they are in the system where the Salt/C can reach them, then after that you should start feeling better?
Salt kills slugs, this much we know. If you can maim the adults to where they can't hold onto the intestinals walls, then they should pass, too?
The higher salt content will be in your blood stream too, killing them by having their environment too alkaline, I assume?
PM me with your progress or if you show improvement, please? In the meantime, I'll keep looking.
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Post by toni on Jun 10, 2009 17:37:03 GMT -5
Kammy,
I'm glad you found the name of the slugs, I know I posted it on page ONE.
It's very helpful when we all post the links to our pasted posts, because there may be more to reference.
I've sure combed through those suckers (slugs) to see what might kill them off safely, (coffee of all things was one), and yes, salt.
I still can't find anything (about them being human or even mammalian parasites) but who knows...Morgs isn't in the books either.
In this thread (pages 1-7) which I think this is page 7 now...is about (coffee) used to kill them too but "how"? We can't overload on that either.
And what do you mean about the "Ivermectin" in your last post? Quote:
It seems like we have to weaken their population since no Ivermectin was taken, and I'm not sure about other Health Food Store anti-parasiticals.
Just wondering what you mean there in yellow?
(PS: I took ( Ivermectin/Stromectol ) for at least 6 months straight - 5 pills a day/30 days a month, which was 150 pills per month, yep (as per Gingers protocol), NEVER missing one day.
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Post by violet on Jun 10, 2009 17:39:37 GMT -5
"A single slug's egg ribbon can contain more than a million eggs."
Then this MUST be what we have!!!!!!!!!! LOL!
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Post by violet on Jun 10, 2009 17:55:36 GMT -5
Kammy, I'm glad you found the name of the slugs, I know I posted it on page ONE. It's very helpful when we all post the links to our pasted posts, because there may be more to reference. I've sure combed through those suckers (slugs) to see what might kill them off safely, (coffee of all things was one), and yes, salt. I still can't find anything (about them being human or even mammalian parasites) but who knows...Morgs isn't in the books either. In this thread (pages 1-7) which I think this is page 7 now...is about (coffee) used to kill them too but "how"? We can't overload on that either. And what do you mean about the "Ivermectin" in your last post? Quote: It seems like we have to weaken their population since no Ivermectin was taken, and I'm not sure about other Health Food Store anti-parasiticals.
Just wondering what you mean there in yellow? (PS: I took ( Ivermectin/Stromectol ) for at least 6 months straight - 5 pills a day/30 days a month, which was 150 pills per month, yep (as per Gingers protocol), NEVER missing one day. Toni, did taking Ivermectin/Stromectol help?
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Post by toni on Jun 10, 2009 21:06:29 GMT -5
Violet,
I actually learned (from experimenting) with the Stromectol - the doses, that I got exactly the same relief (which oh did I ever ;D) from taking it alot less than I was.
I found that by taking the Iver/Strom approx the first day thru to the 3rd day of the beginning of each month, then stopping it completely till the middle of every month, that I got exactly the same wonderful relief from the itching. AND the best part was, I only took 3 pills a day for those 3 days twice a month, instead of 5 pills every day of the month.
So in essence, I took then ONLY a total of 18 pills of the Stromecol per month, verses 150 pills each month.
So it was a good thing, and it worked well, but then I chose to switch to supplements after I understood more from reading that I could use the right supplements to get the same relief, instead of polluting my system with chemicals/drugs/meds.
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Post by ctbarb on Jun 10, 2009 23:27:38 GMT -5
Hi All, Had to delete my earlier post to make some changes. Yes, these slugs do come in cycles...I have several generations going at present, so they are there most of the time in some form. Once it gets this far along, they are always present. No, I have not taken any form of drug...from reading here and doing research, there is nothing out there that can totally kill them off except salt. I'm doing the salt protocol now, but they are still there...too many now, I guess... Hugs, ctbarb
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2009 7:36:14 GMT -5
Barb,
Have you found any articles that have the slugs 'hatching cycle'?
Thanks
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Post by violet on Jun 11, 2009 11:50:36 GMT -5
Violet, I actually learned (from experimenting) with the Stromectol - the doses, that I got exactly the same relief (which oh did I ever ;D) from taking it alot less than I was. I found that by taking the Iver/Strom approx the first day thru to the 3rd day of the beginning of each month, then stopping it completely till the middle of every month, that I got exactly the same wonderful relief from the itching. AND the best part was, I only took 3 pills a day for those 3 days twice a month, instead of 5 pills every day of the month. So in essence, I took then ONLY a total of 18 pills of the Stromecol per month, verses 150 pills each month. So it was a good thing, and it worked well, but then I chose to switch to supplements after I understood more from reading that I could use the right supplements to get the same relief, instead of polluting my system with chemicals/drugs/meds. Thanks, Toni. And do you think the bismuth subgallate is the main thing that works as well as the medication?
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