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Post by jeany on Feb 3, 2010 13:32:54 GMT -5
Hey Tonster ;D, what about the Propolis? Did you notice any 'change' in your health at that time you were taking it?
Jeany
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Post by kammy on Feb 3, 2010 13:36:41 GMT -5
Didn't we look at chitanase supplements to dissolve the chitin a long time ago... is it time to dig out the chitanse? Am I remembering correctly? Yes, I think it was Chitosan?..but look here: Shrimp chitin used for fungal chitin deacetylase resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd?code=76qh9cawr2yw47q1&size=largestAs far as I understood, is that Chitin cannot easily dissolve fungal chitin for example. It needs to be broken down in to chitin particles, thus using the enzymes, which turn it in to Chitosan and then adding Formic Acid to achieve fungal breakdown. Jeany Huh? lol...
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Post by kammy on Feb 3, 2010 13:40:50 GMT -5
Thanks Kammy and Tony. I would like to ask my doctor for ivermecting as I am having a terrible time with tiny black cocoons and larva-this is an awful illness. Aso thinking of starting up the black walnut-oregeno-clove tincture and adding some fresh garlic and onions. I do coq10; magnesium,vitamin d, zinc, c, fish oil,E, levoxyl for thyroid but right now the critters are winning the war. I could up my salt intake. Any suggestions? I am not on antibiotics but am thinking of restarting Doxycyline and amoxicillon (spelling bad) Can zimectrin be taken w/antibiotics? Anyone try it? Hi Inez, stick around a while. As you can see - I'm pretty lost here? Maybe Toni, Frito or Jeany can best tell you how to kill the larval aspect... ? I think we need to look at Jo's stuff... I'm sure she's got some good pointers... let me go over and read what she says... brb...
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Post by violet on Feb 3, 2010 13:42:58 GMT -5
I just now saw this, Violet... let's see what you wrote? author=violet "Kammy and everyone. Just a real quick couple of replies about some things below, Kammy.
Actually, Ginger is not a medical doctor. I believe she has or will earn her PhD in nursing. She uses high doses of medicines, determining their effectiveness by the empirical method. She does not know the long-term effects. Her philosophy is that desperate times call for desperate measures. Something I've never understood is why someone who knows morgies are suffering and low on funds from so much spent on trying to get well would charge so much per visit. I believe that is at least one (if not the) reason she could not practice in Texas any longer.I wasn't aware of her credentials, it appeared that they introduced her as 'doctor'...? My mistake. It must be that she has, then, gotten her Ph.D., so their calling her "Dr. Savely" would be correct. I don't agree with over-medicating, especially, since Toni's pointed out that it's not necessary to get the desired effects, sounds like bad medicine to me? "Kammy, I really admire your research and persistence and tenacity and intelligence, so I hope you will understand my sharing this information as informative and not meant as critical. The insect defecating of which you speak has been written up as a battery. Remember the pictures and article I sent you about it? We are not sure it's an insect, and I personally don't know if it's a battery, but we need to be very careful in termining what things are until we're sure." A battery? Interesting. Do you by any chance stiill have that article that I sent you about internal batteries, with the picture of the one that looks exactly like what the LB has been thinking is a gnat fly larva? They showed oneYou see, I look at it as an 'engine'... with iron and nickel driving the 'battery' that's in all thermodynamic engines. Carnicom just stated recently how it appears to feed on iron. You know the first battery in the Model-T was made with iron/nickel and the battery lasted forever, wouldn't die? I'm going to eventually look at it in this manner and kill the sucker, this isn't my field - I was hoping that a real scientists would come along and help us by now? Where have you seen a 'write up' on our insect defecating? I had sent it to you...probably in a pm. I'll search and see what I find? "I don't think trained researchers have found insect or larval involvement nor fungus, have they? Am thinking specifically of Randy Wymore. Do you know? I may be incorrect on this, but I thought I heard that he had not seen that kind of involvement. Please correct me if this is wrong. Thanks." I'm not sure who is funding the Wymore research, have you thought that maybe this organization/s doesn't want to associate Morgellons with insects in any form or fashion at this point in time? It appears that all of the leaders in this arena are just trying to get us looked at by our physicians with dignity and proper care, to get our foot in the door... maybe, their philosophy is that the 'proving' can come later? I can see where they are coming from. This is a pretty scary situation for all involved, it's very political too, it would seem? I agree with all you say here--especially the political part. We just don't know. I do know that Oklahoma State must be in on funding or at least legitimizing the Wymore research, as Wymore's morgellons research center has the university's name as part of its name.As far as I can tell, Wymore hasn't tried to see anything alive... he's studying the fibers. When asked if he had seen them move or grow - he said 'no'... Yes, that is true. I think the fibers are his focus, and then they will study the other morgs aspects after that. "Again, I salute you for your research and theories, Kammy. Thank you for all your hard work."TY, Violet!
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Post by violet on Feb 3, 2010 13:49:00 GMT -5
Jeany, Yes, while taking the Stromectol, I didn't get the crawlies feeling at all, and I only got one or two new lesions per month, instead of the hundred I'd get every first of the month, and then a hundred brand new ones again around the middle of each month. I was like many people we know (with the lesion breakouts) which were extremely bad and I had that going on for about a year and a half...before I took the stromectol. I've since found that taking lots of antioxidants, and a supplement I've mentioned before has stopped my "hundred lesion breakout every two weeks". When I don't take it, I break out. It's called: Natures Way brand : Bone, Flesh and Cartilage. It's got in it: Proprietary Bblend 960 mgs: White Oak Bark Gravel root (bark) Marshmallow (root) Black Walnut (hull) Slippery Elm (bark) Calendula (flower) Scullcap (stem, leaf, fruit) When I do get a new or few lesions, I apply the milk and yog mix, and they go away. It's only the tunnel (on my face that's still productive) that I can't rid. I still get the crawlies under the skin feeling, and that happens around the first of the month and the middle of each month. But once I take a hot shower with antibacterial dish soap (Dawn or Palmolive) then it goes away. I've seen black specks appear on my legs where I feel the crawlies (using my scope pulled out of the holder/stand) and saw that these tiny tiny specks start appearing...and I don't understand that part (well...none of it really) but it's what happens....and I think those are being pushed out of the skin and they're something to do with a bacteria...because the "anti-bacterial" dish soap cures the crawlies instantly after I shower with it. (these particular specks) look like carbon, or magnetite imho. They're different than the specks that grow the mold. Thanks Toni for telling us your experiences with Ivermectin. I've never taken any chemical meds for parasites. I chose to take some stuff made out of different kinds of herbs, also recommended by H.Clark. It's called Para X. I mix it together with Grapefruitseedextract. 40 drops each in a glass of water. Another thing I'm considering to get for Kammy and me is Colonix and Toxinout. Colonix is a strong colon cleanser, rids parasites and slime and other residues from the intestinal wall. Toxinout removes, as the name says, toxins such as chemical residues, heavy metals etc. They are both 'natural' products. This is a German site that sells this, but just look at the disgusting pictures! www.drnatura.de/galerie.phpI believe the Black Walnut is what is keeping it under control, Toni and I'm glad it's helping you. Jeany Yikes, Jeany!!!! What is that in the pictures at that site? Scum from the colon, or a parasite of some kind? Agggghhhhhh........
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Post by kammy on Feb 3, 2010 14:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Feb 3, 2010 15:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by violet on Feb 3, 2010 18:48:50 GMT -5
Hey Violet, I'm not sure of which article you sent me... if you could find it again - you could post it here for all of us to see? Don't want you to go out of your way if you can't easily, tho'... TY! I FOUND THE ARTICLE!!!! Please look at this and you will see the paper battery picture that is idential to your fungus gnat larva pictures! The article is veeerrrryyy interesting, mentioning how the batteries are made from paper. Talks of their being inserted into clothing and paper. Please everyone, let me know your reaction to this picture and article in light of what we all have been experiencing.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34149776/ns/technology_and_science-future_of_energy/Excerpt: The key to this new battery turned out to be an often bothersome green algae known as Cladophora. Rotting heaps of this hairlike freshwater plant throughout the world can lead to unsightly, foul-smelling beaches.
This algae makes an unusual kind of cellulose typified by a very large surface area, 100 times that of the cellulose found in paper. This allowed researchers to dramatically increase the amount of conducting polymer available for use in the new device, enabling it to better recharge, hold and discharge electricity. Also this information from another site:
Washington, September 11 (ANI): A group of researchers at the Angstromangstrom (ăng`strəm), abbr. Å, unit of length equal to 10−10 meter (0.0000000001 meter); it is used to measure the wavelengths of visible light and of other forms of electromagnetic radiation, such as ultraviolet ..... Click the link for more information. Laboratory at Uppsala University Uppsala University (Swedish Uppsala universitet) is a public university in Uppsala, Sweden, 64 kilometres (40 miles) north-northwest of Stockholm.[1] Founded in 1477, it claims to be the oldest university in Scandinavia, outdating the University of Copenhagen in Sweden have discovered that the distinctive cellulose nanostructure of the green Cladophora algae algae (ăl`jē) [plural of Lat. alga=seaweed], a large and diverse group of primarily aquatic plantlike organisms. These organisms were previously classified as a primitive subkingdom of the plant kingdom, the thallophytes (plants that can serve as an effective coating substrate for use in environmentally friendly Environmentally friendly, also referred to as nature friendly, is a term used to refer to goods and services considered to inflict minimal harm on the environment.[1] batteries.
"These algae has a special cellulose structure characterised by a very large surface area," said Gustav Nystrom, a doctoral student in nanotechnology and the first author of the research article.
"By coating this structure with a thin layer of conducting polymer, we have succeeded in producing a battery that weighs almost nothing and that has set new charge-time and capacity records for polymer-cellulose-based batteries," he added.
Despite extensive efforts in recent years to develop new cellulose-based coating substrates for battery applications, satisfactory charging performance proved difficult to obtain.
However, nobody had tried using algae.
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algal infection is very rare but systemic and udder infections are recorded. See protothecosis.
Researcher Albert Mihranyan and Professor Maria Stromme at the Nanotechnology and Functional Materials Department of Engineering Sciences at the Angstrom Laboratory had been investigating pharmaceutical applications of the cellulose from Cladophora algae for a number of years.
This type of cellulose has a unique nanostructure, entirely different from that of terrestrial plants, that has been shown to function well as a thickening agent Thickening agents, or thickeners, are substances which, when added to a mixture, increase its viscosity without substantially modifying its other properties, such as taste. They provide body, increase stability, and improve suspending action. for pharmaceutical preparations and as a binder in foodstuffs.
The possibility of energy-storage applications was raised in view of its large surface area.
"We have long hoped to find some sort of constructive use for the material from algae blooms and have now been shown this to be possible," said Maria Stromme, Professor in Nanotechnology and leader of the research group.
"The battery research has a genuinely interdisciplinary character and was initiated in collaboration with chemist professor Leif Nyholm. Cellulose pharmaceutics experts, battery chemists and nanotechnologists have all played essential roles in developing the new material," she added.
The research introduces an entirely new electrode material for energy storage applications, consisting of a nanostructure of algal cellulose coated with a 50 nm layer of polypyrrole.
Batteries based on this material can store up to 600 mA per cm3, with only 6 per cent loss through 100 charging cycles.
"This creates new possibilities for large-scale production of environmentally friendly, cost-effective, lightweight energy storage systems," said Maria Stromme. (ANI)
Copyright 2009 Asian News InternationalThe Asian News International (ANI) agency provides multimedia news to China and 50 bureaus in India. It covers virtually all of South Asia since its foundation and presently claims, on its official website, to be the leading South Asia-wide news agency. ..... Click the link for more information. (ANI) - All Rights Reserved. Provided by Syndigate.info an Albawaba.com company
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Post by toni on Feb 3, 2010 22:05:29 GMT -5
Hey Tonster ;D, what about the Propolis? Did you notice any 'change' in your health at that time you were taking it? Jeany hehehe I like that, (Tonster) that's cute ;D You were wondering if I noticed anything different while taking the propolis...and to just say it like it was (nope) no difference at all. I'd gone through a large bottle of them too. I'd read quite abit about the benefits, and figured it couldn't hurt, so why not try it. (this was before I knew I had Morgs) But "I still got Morgs", and it changed nothing (for me that is), but maybe it can be helpful. See...something I've been very fortunate (thank God) is my energy level hasn't changed since Morgs. I don't know if it's what I eat, or if it's all the supplements, or just everything I try to do to keep health conscious. I don't particularly like meds, but I'd take a truck load IF it meant getting rid of Morgs forever. But so far, I've not had that kind of luck either - in that I don't know of anyone who's rid Morgs (for certain). Imho, it can lie dormant possibly. And then flair up when stress or something is lacking in the body. I say that only cause "morgs fatigue" seems to pound harder (the symptoms) when we're "stressed out" in any way shape or form. I really feel antioxidants are important. They are what help protect our cells from "anything trying to attack and destroy them". I'm a fanatic about "anti oxidants". Diseases, aging, you name it, ALL attack cells, and oxidize them- that's putting it very basically. So, "protecting them" from (oxidization) or "free radicals" in the body which then oxidize them is why the "anti" oxidants I feel are extremely benficial. I take Green Tea with White and Black tea supplements which too are (strong antioxidants). I sure wish we knew what the answers were or even just a fraction. But "protecting the body" cells from the inside is "imho" of great benefit, especially when we don't really know what we're dealing with. (didn't mean to get off on another direction)
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Post by jeany on Feb 4, 2010 7:09:40 GMT -5
Hey Tonster ;D, what about the Propolis? Did you notice any 'change' in your health at that time you were taking it? Jeany hehehe I like that, (Tonster) that's cute ;D You were wondering if I noticed anything different while taking the propolis...and to just say it like it was (nope) no difference at all. I'd gone through a large bottle of them too. I'd read quite abit about the benefits, and figured it couldn't hurt, so why not try it. (this was before I knew I had Morgs) But "I still got Morgs", and it changed nothing (for me that is), but maybe it can be helpful. See...something I've been very fortunate (thank God) is my energy level hasn't changed since Morgs. I don't know if it's what I eat, or if it's all the supplements, or just everything I try to do to keep health conscious. I don't particularly like meds, but I'd take a truck load IF it meant getting rid of Morgs forever. But so far, I've not had that kind of luck either - in that I don't know of anyone who's rid Morgs (for certain). Imho, it can lie dormant possibly. And then flair up when stress or something is lacking in the body. I say that only cause "morgs fatigue" seems to pound harder (they symptoms) when we're "stressed out" in any way shape or form. I really feel antioxidants are important. They are what help protect our cells from "anything trying to attack and destroy them". I'm a fanatic about "anti oxidants". Diseases, aging, you name it, ALL attack cells, and oxidize them- that's putting it very basically. So, "protecting them" from (oxidization) or "free radicals" in the body which then oxidize them is why the "anti" oxidants I feel are extremely benficial. I take Green Tea with White and Black tea supplements which too are (strong antioxidants). I sure wish we knew what the answers were or even just a fraction. But "protecting the body" cells from the inside is "imho" of great benefit, especially when we don't really know what we're dealing with. (didn't mean to get off on another direction) Yeah, hahaha...glad you like it... ;D... ...well..the Propolis I ordered just came in today. Kam and I took 8 drops on a piece of sugar to begin with. I also got some salve with Tea Tree, Peppermint Oil, Manuka Oil, Zinc, Betonite Clay and Propolis in it, to try on her ear, a soap bar with added salt too. Let's see if it works.. ..and..YES...antioxidants are KEY!..are you taking Zinc too? Jeany
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Post by jeany on Feb 4, 2010 7:46:52 GMT -5
Yes, I think it was Chitosan?..but look here: Shrimp chitin used for fungal chitin deacetylase resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd?code=76qh9cawr2yw47q1&size=largestAs far as I understood, is that Chitin cannot easily dissolve fungal chitin for example. It needs to be broken down in to chitin particles, thus using the enzymes, which turn it in to Chitosan and then adding Formic Acid to achieve fungal breakdown. Jeany Huh? lol... ok..hun..I'll explain it, esp. for you... ;D..I wanted to come back and explain what I was trying to say..but got 'off track'..hehe.. Formic Acid is in a lot of things..such as..rubber, household products, used in the textile industry, to tan leather, perfume..etc.. It's also used as a miticide by beekeepers. Formic Acid also occurs naturally in the venom of bee and ant stings. It's a form of Carboxylic acid and aldehyde. Carboxylic acids are used in the production of polymers, pharmaceuticals, solvents, and food additives. Chitin fibers: Industrially important carboxylic acids include acetic acid (component of vinegar, precursor to solvents and coatings), acrylic and methacrylic acids (precursors to polymers, adhesives), adipic acid (polymers), citric acid (beverages), ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (chelating agent), fatty acids (coatings), maleic acid (polymers), propionic acid (food preservative), terephthalic acid (polymers). I don't know, but I've been thinking about that Chitosan and that it might NOT be beneficial for us after all. As we know, insects have a chitin like body. If it takes Formic Acid to break down Chitin to form Chitosan which breaks down fungus in the other hand, it might come to a chain reaction by handling and ingesting Formic Acid on a daily basis?..and this is what is causing the 'stinging' and 'biting' sensations? is what's causing the open wounds?..like a body defense system due to an overload on insect chitin, as we assume insects/insect dna are/is involved, fungus and formic acid? Here is an article about a fungal infection and the formation of chitin fibers: www.nutramed.com/Fungi/2_slide_culture_blastomycosis.htmhmm..what do you think? Jeany
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Post by toni on Feb 4, 2010 8:09:10 GMT -5
Jeany, You know, I use to take 25 mgs of zinc 3x a week. For some reason I've developed an intolerance (big time) to zinc (supplements). So in replacement of zinc supplements, I take pumpkin seed oil soft gel supplements. Here's some great info too on zinc. Too much will hinder the body, which I didn't really know either. dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/FactSheets/Zinc.asp(And I sure hope and pray that your ear gets relief Kammy)
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 4, 2010 9:23:35 GMT -5
Jeany,
You will notice the carboxylic acid in combination with an amine is also the chemical formula of Amphotericin B. In which the principle behind its use is not only that it targets ergosterol found in the structure of fungii cell walls, but it works on the principal of proton donation. It is this donation in which compromises the cells of the fungii wall structure and creates pores in which the contents of the fungal cell leak out and the fungal cell dies.
Resistance as well as other mechanisms in "how" Amp B works, are also associated with the fungii cells to change the structure of the cell and thus the fungii wall structure in which pores do not develop and thus Resistance mechanism. As well as, Amp B in some cases even with this development, continues to still be effective. So researchers are investigating another possibility of why Amp B works, besides the pore formation. I believe this to be directly associated with proton donation.
My opinion is based on Amphoterism.
Frito
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 4, 2010 9:25:23 GMT -5
Additionally, please, please, stay away from the heavy metals.
Frito
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2010 10:36:51 GMT -5
TY, Toni, that's nice of you to wish me wellness... I cannot tell you how much I have suffered with my ear and I usually don't say anything or let on... I have to look at it in a positive way - it makes a portion of what Morgellons is very evident to me and gives me a good indicator of how effective products might work, etc. By being able to easily remove large quantities of the cellular particles, I can hopefully study and discover more of what is going on - I just have to focus. Violet's post about the paper batteries is very interesting. What I was wanting to do was eventually open a "Materials Science" thread, I was hoping someone with a stronger science background would come along and help us in that department, eventually? I re-read the same article on a different site: www.tomsguide.com/us/Paper-Battery-Stanford-Supercapacitor-nano,news-5405.html and still wonder what does the photograph of the larvae-looking thing have to do with the process, it doesn't mention the correlation? I've looked all around in the various sciences to see which ones are most likely to be involved in Morgellons disease, touching on them here and there, to get an idea of what might have happened to cause our disease to come about. We have all wondered about the Nano and especially the Materials Science aspects because our fibers are being reported as fibers similar to what they use in electronics? If you view the movie in the link, you see them dispersing a black ink on the paper to cause the battery action? My thoughts there are - for those of you, like myself, that have a large lesion area - there's times that you might manipulate it with your fingers and under your fingernail is carbon, coal black. I know it's not just me, I've heard others report it. I can see from my photographs that the insect is defecating what looks like a carbon-ball... and with the photo in the article showing an insect that might be defecating or the food going through its body?... it makes you wonder? - if I don't have this carbon black material inside of my ear - that I could make a paper battery with my lesion stuff? Good God! Did something in the Nanotech or Material Sciences get caught up in our disease to make us evidently sick? It needs investigating for sure, but we would have to have special equipment or access to special labs to know for sure - we could speculate all day long. I believe some scientist has done some magnetic testing on our lesion particles, more in this avenue needs to be done, we're still awaiting Wymore's shotgun Blast analysis, this kind of information is going to help us better determine the true nature of our disease. For right now, I have to go with what I can easily see and in the future access doctors and labs to verify or rule out. For Inez: I'm thinking today that the bentonite clay in any form is probably one of the best things we can be taking and using? Also, we can see the importance of an alkaline body/blood - take a shot or two of vinegar or baking soda each day, this should slow down the cellular and larval production.
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Post by ibzahp on Feb 4, 2010 11:39:16 GMT -5
Thanks Kammy,Toni, Jeany and everyone who chimed in about helping me to get rid of the black coccoons. I am going to start up the apple cider vinegar and the baking soda with my fizzy drink. Kammy I beleive it was you who said they were taking Chlorella. I have a drink that has chlorella, MSM, Vitamin E complex, cayenne, spirulina, camu camu, blue green algae extracts, copper, iodine, mangese, zinc, potassium , sodium, selenium, chromium, silica and boron. It used to make me feel really good but I quit taking it because of the blue green algae. I wonder if it was feeding the biofilm or not. I have also restarted my coconut oil and green tea. It sure costs a lot of money to meet my nutritional needs now that I have morgellons. You guys here on the board have seen me through some terrible times , I am really grateful to all of you. You are my morgie family. Whether this stuff is a parasite or a battery or black eyed peas from venus I don't know but I am doing everything within my power to defeat it. Sorry for the long rambling. Peace, Love and Blessings-ibzahp
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Post by ibzahp on Feb 4, 2010 12:19:45 GMT -5
What does bentonite clay do when we take it internally?
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2010 12:40:45 GMT -5
What does bentonite clay do when we take it internally? It does all kinds of good things even if we don't have larvae! Jeany was reading it to me earlier, maybe she will tell us? It's very affordable too, I always try to give out "cheap" information... ;D Be careful with the baking soda/vinegar mixed together! You remember those science experiments, it's volatile?... I meant to choose one or the other... hmmm? Has anyone ever taken these two together?
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Post by jeany on Feb 4, 2010 13:25:50 GMT -5
What does bentonite clay do when we take it internally? It does all kinds of good things even if we don't have larvae! Jeany was reading it to me earlier, maybe she will tell us? It's very affordable too, I always try to give out "cheap" information... ;D Inez, all I can say it's GOOD stuff!..It 'pulls' out toxins such as bacteria, removes the slime that gathers on the intestinal walls, it helps against stomach pain and digestive problems, it heals the skin..esp. excema, psoriasis, skin ulcers etc., helps against itching...you can even put it on your scalp to treat your hair, esp. if you tend to have oily hair. Here some info: www.candidablog.com/benefits-of-bentonite-clay.phpMaybe you aren’t aware, but bentonite clay can be used to remove all the toxins and harmful waste and buildup in our bodies.
Today, many alternative medicine practitioners appreciate the effectiveness of bentonite clay in the process of detoxification.
Bentonite clay is very useful in eliminating pathogenic viruses, aflatoxin, toxins, pesticides, and herbicides.
The bentonite clay naturally attracts the particles of these toxins and waste via magnetism.
This bentonite also acts like a sponge in the sense that it expands when it absorbs water.
Since toxins are drawn to the bentonite clay, this helps is purge and detoxify your body of harmful materials and waste.
Bentonite is also an inert substance.
This means is is not absorbed by the body and will essentially pass through without being changed. This allows it to collect the toxins from your body.
Bentonite clay helps remove this build up by scraping the excess buildup from the lining of our colon. This benefits us as the body will then be able to absorb nutrients from the food we eat in a more efficient manner.
If you follow this by eating right and exercising, you can help restore the youth, and vigor to your body.I'm intending to use it on my scalp, probably leaving on over night. Kam's putting it on her ear and we're both taking it internally too. Let's wait and see if the Morgs like THAT!.. ;D Jeany
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Post by jeany on Feb 4, 2010 13:34:10 GMT -5
Jeany, You know, I use to take 25 mgs of zinc 3x a week. For some reason I've developed an intolerance (big time) to zinc (supplements). So in replacement of zinc supplements, I take pumpkin seed oil soft gel supplements. Here's some great info too on zinc. Too much will hinder the body, which I didn't really know either. dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/FactSheets/Zinc.asp(And I sure hope and pray that your ear gets relief Kammy) Hi Toni, what? a zinc intolerance? how did you notice that?...you know, that zinc is an antagonist to iron, so possibly it lowered your iron level too much, made you feel tired?..My daughter took Zinc and always felt tired, after I told her to leave it, since she has her period and is losing iron every month, she feels better now. I'm taking high doses of Zinc every day and feel fine, although I'm not menopausal either. I believe it's KEY in fighting this disease! Jeany
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