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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 10, 2012 16:48:24 GMT -5
The work has already been done and is finished.The id and what is on us isn't the issue any longer.It is what are the other things involved such as the mites on the thrip and what about the many other life forms inside us,and what are they? Why have thrips decided to parasitize us?Where does the smell come from and what does it do.Is it from the thrips or did it come from the tick that bit me? Why do other bugs chase us,is it the pheremones?Why can no one id so many of the bugs that enter our bodies.What is the role of the black fungus? Is it Aspergillus Niger or some other repro material? I can go on and on and I know some of these answers but not all of them as the questions keep coming.There is more than one of the thrips involved and the main one has not yet been seen by anyone.It isn't just id'ing one bug that solves this set of questions,but it helps.What is inside our bodies is scary and the story keeps growing.
Much work has been done on this but the big story keeps building each day.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 10, 2012 22:39:30 GMT -5
I guess what I was saying about working towards positive proof was just jumped way over and called a thrips.
Give me a picture of a thrips that matches please I would like to see it.
If you have a thrips picture please present it.
I want that picture to view.
If you can not provide positive proof this is definatley where we can not agree.
Sorry friend
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Post by itchin4answers on Jun 11, 2012 4:06:51 GMT -5
I have uploaded a short video, very amateur, sorry it's not too clear. I took samples on sticky tape, these are particles, goo and blobs. I see the same "factory" within the blobs. Can you see the black circles? I think Morgellons was meant to go un noticed in people.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 11, 2012 9:04:50 GMT -5
It's my opinion that the parasites have a few years or more on us and they have become quite intelligent.To have developed to a poit where they can fool the cdc,well that says a mouthful.They haven't fooled me,however.Toni has been allowed to see some of the library pics that matter to us,so when she is ready to speak,she will probably do so.Thanks Toni.
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2012 10:35:00 GMT -5
It's my opinion that the parasites have a few years or more on us and they have become quite intelligent.To have developed to a poit where they can fool the cdc,well that says a mouthful.They haven't fooled me,however.Toni has been allowed to see some of the library pics that matter to us,so when she is ready to speak,she will probably do so.Thanks Toni. Hi Scrap, It's not I don't want to speak.... I just haven't had much to say, haha I'm daily popping out pictures to different entomologists, but still NOT one soul has replied. So, we'll just keep doing what we're doing, and HOPE someone will reply. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice for them to reply. So we won't bank on "them"....but going from past experiences, someone always has replied. So, that's all I can say about "that part". --------------------------------------------------- I wanted to post this too, it's not a science article, but it's eHOW. From that link it says:Myiasis In humans, myiasis occurs when an adult fly is attracted to a human, most often due to an open wound where it will lay eggs. The eggs hatch within eight to 20 hours and begin feeding. Intestinal Myiasis Myiasis can occur in the intestines when a person ingests fly eggs. Intestinal myiasis can cause severe damage to internal organs if left untreated. www.ehow.com/facts_5556579_maggots-humans.htmlI posted that because "it *could* be/as in maybe, but not positive" - but this might be the case too. What do you think? |
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 11, 2012 10:57:56 GMT -5
My friend (Jo Simmons) micromyasis @ morgellons uk has written extensively about myasis.We don't talk much anymore but we do understand each other. check micromyasis for her articles at morgellons.uk
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 11, 2012 10:59:29 GMT -5
Toni,Don't start the breath holding anytime soon. 350,000 years is a long time to reach back to.Some can be id'd but not the main ones.
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2012 11:14:57 GMT -5
Thanks you Scrap (regarding Jo).
Yes, many of us sure do know her, she's a super person
for sure!
And yep...I'm just going about my business, in (hopes)
we get replies.
That link above that I'd posted about getting digi pictures
ID'ed, well, I'll write to them too if you guys aren't.
Let me know okay, because the Maryland University
will ID to the best they can for free.
They only want to know "what state you live in".
But I sure don't want that "option" to go to waste.
Let me know.
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2012 11:17:26 GMT -5
Here it is from the previous page. University of Maryland Here's what they say: Saturday, June 09, 2012 Send A Question Submit your question to HGIC's staff of experts! Complete our question submission form and receive a personal answer to your question. If you are trying to identify a plant or insect, please send a digital photo if possible. This place I've not "yet" sent anything to, do you want to??? www.hgic.umd.edu/faq/sendAQuestion.cfmIf you would like me to send a picture each of yours PM me with the state you live in, that way I can fill out the form. It 'helps them' and I can't put Nevada, because I've not had any of this happen...and it might be too dry here anyways to even have the same kind of critters. |
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Post by toni on Jun 11, 2012 11:47:38 GMT -5
Archives of Dermatology Article | February 1981 Furuncular Myiasis Caused by Wohlfahrtia vigil (Walker): First Case Reported in Nebraska archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?volume=117&page=119Our idiot doctors today also need this put in their faces, or at least mailed to them since they think all lesions are self induced. |
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Post by jeany on Jun 12, 2012 7:45:01 GMT -5
It's not a thrip. It completes it's adult life cycle in August. You need to hurry. Maybe then we can compare notes. Your research needs to be independent of ours.
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Post by lostintime on Jun 12, 2012 10:25:19 GMT -5
Hi Jeany, How can you make a blanket statement like that? Scrap492, sorry you’re having problems at MDR. I too was requested not to put information on that site by Franky and I see it as a misinformation campaign. Others have attacked me at MDR because ideas and comments don’t fit somebody’s agenda. The only thing we can do about it is not giving it any clicks. Toni, I too have run images out to several entomologists around the world and got nothing in return. It’s not easy to get answers and unfortunately I have found that several places charge to give information. It is great to see real investigative work on the subject of insects. There are so many that has not been categorized. I still have yet to find any answers. I have put this information out there some time ago and it has not been updated. www.morgellonsinsect.com |
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 12, 2012 11:50:38 GMT -5
My little test have given some pretty good results actually, there are flies and maggots in both I believe they are of the same sort.
The temperature outside has to be about the same as the human body.
If these sealed shut bags return the same result I will go farther to isolate the bags in a leak proof container inside the sealed bags.
One bag was excrement, the other was stomach contents both SEEM, see the word SEEM, it is not a confident statement.
It is a wait and lets see item.
I do not like doing this work, it sucks but we need to have the same results and someone has to do it.
If we could only get ten proficient people together for this kind of work, we could most likely not only help the world out, but show up modern well staffed scientists and maybe even make money at it to carry on the endeavors. Goodbye big pharm you lost your chance!!!! LOL What a nice dream.
Why does everyone here have to be the leader the first and the best, I want kudos, I got a great idea, lets name the cereal KUDOS'S LOL, you heard it from Baraka Obam FIRST.
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Post by toni on Jun 12, 2012 12:58:23 GMT -5
Hi Jeany, How can you make a blanket statement like that? Scrap492, sorry you’re having problems at MDR. I too was requested not to put information on that site by Franky and I see it as a misinformation campaign. Others have attacked me at MDR because ideas and comments don’t fit somebody’s agenda. The only thing we can do about it is not giving it any clicks. Toni, I too have run images out to several entomologists around the world and got nothing in return. It’s not easy to get answers and unfortunately I have found that several places charge to give information. It is great to see real investigative work on the subject of insects. There are so many that has not been categorized. I still have yet to find any answers. I have put this information out there some time ago and it has not been updated. www.morgellonsinsect.comHi Lostintime, Thank you for letting me know. I'm glad you tried too, thank you. It's frustrating turning on the computer hoping I'll have surprise emails or even one from all that's gone out. But nothing "yet". I'll keep hoping I guess. |
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Post by toni on Jun 12, 2012 14:41:05 GMT -5
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 12, 2012 15:23:58 GMT -5
Toni,lIT,the vid of mine on utube shows the end result of one of my growth endeavoure as being a centipede. check scabdraggr channel and the morgellons worm. Many have thered head centipede and the brown centipedes in and on us.I grow phorid flies from my skin and some other creature that is being researched for an ID.BO I so agree with the statement about egos and the harm that they can cause.We all need to put them aside, as the story and the suffering are too big for any one person.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 12, 2012 17:46:48 GMT -5
Hey Bo, thanks for inviting me over.If I can ever again be a pain in the butt,be sure to find me.Good luck with the gardening,the smell can be overpowering at times,not from the feces but while the phorid flies grow.I have pics of the skin maggots and flies, if you need them.The big question for me is why are bugs that no one has seen in a long time,if ever, parasitizing us.I'm still holding out for the tick that was between my toes,having put the smell on me that bugs love so much.i went hiking behind my house after the bite and all the bugs chased me out of the forest,Panic time.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 12, 2012 18:39:02 GMT -5
EVERYBODY, ITS TIME FOR A BIG HEARTY BOWL OF KUDO'S, LOL
ANYWAY, i was a tree hugger when I was a kid, when we moved out into the burbs we had a extra special area, chiken farm across the street, farmer along side, hill right next to the house for sleigh ridding, and a good sized forest to play in, thats where I always was, always.
Me and my buddies would build forts, tree, underground and even once a log cabin type.
Try to build even the smallest log cabin with a ax that gets dull, holy 30 days of bleeding hands.
The point, tou can get alot of bugs on you when you spend your life from 8 to 12 in the woods, you can still find our names carved in trees there.
If the issue was normal bugs, I think we may have been real sick kids, we were bitten, stung, cut and I am sure we ate a few for dare or just from having our mouth open too much from saying DUUUUUUUH.
I do not know yet for sure if bugs mean anything at all, parasites either for that matter, I will not guess at it, you will never hear anything like that from me.
I will give all I can to concure with anyone that will do their best to get true and positive answers.
If one person is saying this or that, I want to know how you came to that conclusion and what is the science behind it.
I really wish we had 10 smart unencumbered lads and lasses to do real work without any 8 year old smarty pants I know I knows in the crowd that can not prove what they say.
If you say, if you have light you will be able to see in dark, turn your light on, LET US SEE.
All the bugs look like the same fly, the worms have legs, I did not really get down and dirty yet as I worked all day, maybe I will do some of that work in the next couple of days.
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Post by ruthintoronto on Jun 12, 2012 19:41:22 GMT -5
I have a question. Won't bugs grow in puke or crap anyway? I know on bones for dogs if they are left out maggots grow on them. Just had to ask. Ruth
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 12, 2012 20:24:38 GMT -5
Yes.there are many of them to consider.The deal isn't really the insects that are inside us,the deal is why are they there.What made certain insects chase us and colonize us.How is this to be prevented from reoccurring.The big one is why are previously unid'd bugs inside us.We can study individual species for fifty years and still not know the whys and whats of this disease.I had to stop myself from getting too caught up in the entomology of this disease. It's definitely bugs on us and bugs inside us but many species doing the samr weird act,what's with that?
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