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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 12, 2012 20:27:56 GMT -5
Oh one more thing Bo,The things inside us have been grown for three years now and that has been talked about for quite a while but if anyone wishes to see what is inside them,I will provide those pics.So far not many are interested in them.I think they are fascinating.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 13, 2012 0:18:41 GMT -5
Yes the samples will grow flies and maggots if they are exposed you must have seen this before, but I have instantly put them in a FREEZER BAG, this is not perfect.
I will next time advance the test and make the results more positive.
It has been proved that certain insects carry disease, that means you can get Lyme from ticks and you can get malaria from mosquito's.
Both disease are killers, one, malaria claims over 500,000 a year.
When I got my darkfeild scoping the woman asked if I had ever had Malaria, I almost bet I had.
Now I know there are many types, some are very mild but others, well they claim the lions share of lives.
How can we say anything as of yet, we don't have any statistics on any part of morgellons disease, are we too lazy to meet up in mass and bring some specialists in with excellent microscopes or other types of testing .
Are we afraid to give blood in mass so it can be looked at.
I have my darkfield scoping disk and watch it occasionally, I watched as the teckie ran from one thing to another, just as I was trying to get a good view on something she would hop away to something she was looking at that was just too similar to what she was looking at last.
I did this with several other people at a meeting place set up by Bessie in Tampa.
Some people will dismiss this or that and spout that or this reason, that is no way to imagine getting to an apex of truth.
Then you must still have good information not from lackluster investigators.
I have cracked cases that others had worked for days, they even teamed up with others to find the answer, one day as I was on my way out they asked me what I would think,
I can not think anything unless I ask questions, all their answers were, we already did that, we did it all,
Then you must be mistaken, it is not broken it is fixed as you have fixed everything.
they just looked at me, again I started asking questions, they started again, same story EVERYTHING was good, including the thing that was broken.
So, I did what I always do, start from the beginning and forget all they said, this, that, good good, good, ah ha, I know whats wrong I said to the two men that worked on this issue for two whole days.
I got excuses from them and not any thanks, excuses why it was NOT their fault, I did not even say your stupid, still they had excuses.
The problem was my fifth question to them, it took me 15 minutes, it looked like they hated me, why, I have no clue, if they had got me out of such a mess I would have, sang and danced, they would have a nice steak dinner and I NEVER would have forgotten that trick.
I have learned that the bravest, most talented, smartest people do not speak unless they have true conviction in their words.
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I am not one of those people, but I hope in time I can learn to be more like them.
Scab dude, if you have all the answers we need, please POST A NEW THREAD and let me wallow around in my ineptness, post your whole story so we know you know!, please also tell us how you got to that point.
When is the big story gonna break, please tell us on a new thread, because I am still looking for the positive ID on this bug.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 13, 2012 1:49:51 GMT -5
Bo,I have allowed those you trust to see the pics and to seek the id's of them for themselves.I askd how to place pics here and I was told it was complicated so maybe after the id comes or if it it does come,then we can talk about them.In the mean time let jeanie and her separate research tell us about whats in her bag of poo. she said no thrips but an entomologist id the thrips..I didn't come here for trouble,I came to share.What do you want BO that I might have or know? Maybe the real story,the one that can't be grown in a ziplock.I posted that method months ago on the MSN compassionate site along with a bunch of pics and info.Go there Bo and check some of the bug pics there from others.The lady that told me to stop growing the M bugs now has her pics on there.The bugs are not the whole story but a player in the big story.Let's wait for the picture ids and then the rest of the story will come,ok?Maybe an id won't come.I have the adult of yours and others to show them for id so hang tight.We'll get there,go jeanie go.
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Post by jeany on Jun 13, 2012 8:51:34 GMT -5
No, you don't understand. We have to actually SEE the same and come to the same conclusions independently. Only then we can say there's a consensus. I'll leave it up to you GUYS to tell us where you are coming from. You've got the THING, now do your work and tell us what it is you are seeing, then maybe we can COMPARE. Hi Toni  , saw you've been talking to me here, sorry for not replying sooner. I only check in sporadically. The picture you showed does look quite identical, but NO, it's not it either what we've seen...And what we have seen in our experiments and MICROSCOPIC pics was not a thrip. PS: If this GOOFY name calling sh*t is starting all up here again, I'll let it go. |
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 13, 2012 10:00:36 GMT -5
Don't go anywhere katinka as competition and participation is so i mportant as we nuts work better when our ego can guide us.At least i do and I'm certainly a nut.
Fighting is no fun and I'll promise to not throw punches,especially if we can relate to each other in a kind manner as there are many kind folks watchingn us and what we do here.
Some pics will be able to posted here today as they have been sent.One set of pics is an adult set of the thing that I believe is from Bo's bug.Maybe we can rfer to it as the pukebug,seems fitting doesn't it.
Jeany,what pics would be beneficial to the cause and I'll try to find them to post.
Helping in any way that I can is why i am here.If I can't help then I can go back to my rock.
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Post by toni on Jun 13, 2012 10:49:19 GMT -5
Hi Jeany And everyone here. I know I'm anxious to see too what everyone is growing. Or rather "what it is exactly". And to see if everyone "has grown the same thing or not". That will be very revealing if that's the case. |
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 13, 2012 11:09:35 GMT -5
First and foremost, Scab dude how do you know who I trust, did they tell you my secrets and tell you not to tell me, hmmm, can't trust them.
Jeany, Do not get so sensitive over people calling me BO, I got over that a long time ago, you can only cry so many times
I sing songs now when I am upset. la la la la la la, yes I just had to get over that name BO.
There is a storm coming, its insanity, been raining for a few weeks now.
ANYWAY, seems like I have better things to do, I do not even need to check out what I have going on here as it does not matter really.
Still I will mention what I did this morning.
I took these maggot looking worms out of the bag with a tooth pick, beforehand I had prepared a sheet of glossy picture paper, because these things can move I wanted to slow them down as the least amount of movement will take them out of focus. .
They are too fast to see on the microscope soooo, I had to get the digital out and used photo paper, with little pools, dots of sea bucthorn oil, raid, mineral oil, blood root, luginols iodine, Clorox and oil of oregano.
I did not do this actually to kill them but to slow them down, oil of oregano, zapped them, they are tough, real tough they can actually just keep going in half water half Clorox like nothing is going on..
It is quite clear you had better destroy them before they get to this stage in the body.
Flys were in the bag again
It seems mounting them under the microscope brings the best results while looking through a regular eyepiece instead of the digital camera, once again the digital blows up the worm too big.
Guess I will wait until all the larva change before I do anything else .
There are attributes on the body of this bug I have seen so many times in the human body material.
The worm body has appendages that look just EXACTLY like the formations I have seen in the human body.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 13, 2012 12:37:06 GMT -5
i ried posting pics but ran into a time constraint so I gave some to Toni to post as you sid she needed to look at them and she offered to post them after recieving them.Once posted we can discuss them,OK?
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Post by toni on Jun 13, 2012 13:58:21 GMT -5
 Scrap says these are all of the same bug, from his hand. |
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 13, 2012 15:10:28 GMT -5
The bug pics ae all the same and the redhead is a centipede.The maggot came out from my temple area 3 years ago.There is a cup on the abdomen area of the bug where the live youg are excreeted in a worm that is often called a horsehair worm but it is actually a bunch of heads f the larva.The thing with the elephant snout was cut out and it has many long flowing threads coming from the shoulder area on each side but they were so small that the camera could barely pic them out.The hair is not a hair but a half round tube that soits out babies.I have a movie of the redhead centipede being born.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 13, 2012 18:41:51 GMT -5
The video on utube doesn't show the head so I will put up another one of it.It seems to have morgellons as the amber packet can be seen being pushed out.I see this with many bugs and i will compile a set of photos for us to view and discuss.Hey BO,any requests or ideas that i can follow up on as you seem to have questions for me most of the time.I'mmtrying to do good BO so please believe that my heart is in the right place about the research.It's been tough at times but now we have some answers.
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Post by jeany on Jun 14, 2012 8:22:39 GMT -5
First of all, we can't prove anything. We don't have the lab conditions to receive any credibility from our laymen's findings to the medical or science community. 'They' would brush it off as a corrupt so-called 'backyard scientist' project.
With the air space of a toilet lid, ANY parasite thing could have crawled in and left eggs and this is not a controlled environment either. Also, the amount of time that transpired from when the toilet bowl was last cleaned until 'the experiment' was deposited, leaves a lot of variables. And, the thoroughness of the cleaning as some people may think it's clean, where it's actually not.
How long had the water been sitting prior to 'the experiment' deposit in that a parasite thing could have come by and left a donation?
What does the water look like under the microscope or in the petri dish alone to remove that variable?
So, you have to remove variables as we tried to do and see if you get any of the same conclusions which we then can maybe speculate about.
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Post by toni on Jun 14, 2012 8:39:49 GMT -5
Baraka, I've gotten ONE email back (so far). I'm hopeful, because I've got so many out there (somebody) has got to answer sooner or later. This doesn't help us ID your "creature critter" but - the suggestion by this man is a good one. Baraka, being that I don't know what state you live in, you might want to do what he's suggesting? See below ----------------------------------------------------------- This is what this professor wrote: These look like the pupae of a small fly. I'm not a specialist on flies, but I did find a photo that's very close to yours. You can see it here: www.aphidweb.com/aphidbioagents/Leucopis_spp..htmYou should probably contact the extension entomologist in your state for a positive identification. All the best! - Barry Barry M. OConnor Professor & Curator Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology 2043 Museum of Zoology e-mail: bmoc@umich.edu University of Michigan |
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 14, 2012 9:27:04 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1MDECkF9e4 This is the fly mentioned.there is much more in our library about this fly.I'll shhot some photos to Toni for posting that should prove to be very interesting.Discussions about this dipteran species have been ongoing wth the top entomologist in the world.The wolly adelgid is a huge problem and many efforts to control this pest may include this fly.Much more on this later on.The fly is in the vid but I have a better one to put on utube and then I'll post the link.thanks Toni
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 14, 2012 9:50:23 GMT -5
The bug pics of mine are not from a comode,rather cut from my skin.isn't it redundant that we need a clean room to take a feces sample from? The exact species is growing but not in a Clean Room sterile enviroment.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jun 14, 2012 9:54:17 GMT -5
many species are involved and the last one that i grew was a phorid fly.the ento called the one in my pics a thrips,possibly.Toni will you comment on the bugs in the posted pics for us?Not a fly for certain.
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Post by toni on Jun 14, 2012 11:08:22 GMT -5
many species are involved and the last one that i grew was a phorid fly.the ento called the one in my pics a thrips,possibly.Toni will you comment on the bugs in the posted pics for us?Not a fly for certain. Hi Scrap, Yes, regarding "your pictures" of your specimen (s), what I can do is I'll number them - that way you can describe each numbered specimen, since I don't know the specifics. Be back shortly. Just a note, (the professor above *email*) was referencing Baraka's specimen, as that was the only one he'd seen at the time he got my email asking for identification. |
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Post by toni on Jun 14, 2012 11:49:46 GMT -5
 Scrap, With these numbered, referencing each specimen will be easier. |
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Post by toni on Jun 14, 2012 15:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jun 14, 2012 15:43:17 GMT -5
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, saw you've been talking to me here, sorry for not replying sooner. I only check in sporadically. The picture you showed does look quite identical, but NO, it's not it either what we've seen...And what we have seen in our experiments and MICROSCOPIC pics was not a thrip.
