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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 21:33:11 GMT -5
Post by Dr Jekyl on Jul 15, 2005 21:33:11 GMT -5
Started Quanine 3 days ago. Having a herx the last two days pretty bad. they are crawling out of my hair and face. Can I please have some new skin! That was a funny. At least I didnt ask for a gun
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 21:51:45 GMT -5
Post by Jane D on Jul 15, 2005 21:51:45 GMT -5
Where did you get the quinine? Was it prescribed or did you find an internet source? Thanks Jane D.
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 21:52:06 GMT -5
Post by bugged1 on Jul 15, 2005 21:52:06 GMT -5
KEWL!
Pass the gin and tonic please! For those not in the know, quinine is derived from the bark of the Cinchona tree and was used to treat malaria until more modern drugs were developed from it. It's what gives tonic water it's bitter taste. And I don't think it's any coincidence that the fluoroquinolones (Cipro, Avelox) are analogs of it which further substantiates my claims that we're approaching the magic bullet for this beeeeyaaaatch.
Chemist G
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 21:55:46 GMT -5
Post by Dr jekyl on Jul 15, 2005 21:55:46 GMT -5
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 21:58:02 GMT -5
Post by Dr jekyl on Jul 15, 2005 21:58:02 GMT -5
Chemist are you an actual chemist. If you are.. are you making any progress?
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 22:00:56 GMT -5
Post by Orion*** on Jul 15, 2005 22:00:56 GMT -5
every time I drink the tonic water the activity picks up quite a lot...The astringent witch hazel topical does the same thing...It only makes sense that the quinine does have therapudic properties. Neosporin kicks butt also. Salt rubbed into the scalp is also great -- I think that I will try some epsom salts on the scalp next.
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 22:07:52 GMT -5
Post by bugged1 on Jul 15, 2005 22:07:52 GMT -5
Chemist are you an actual chemist. If you are.. are you making any progress? Yup and yup! I've been taking tetracycline because I had some laying around and it has knocked them down but not out (found out today after that NY Cheescake that I just could NOT resist - so much for getting cocky! So yes, they feed on sugar - avoid!). One of the quinine analogues holds the key to the cure. I'll figure it out sooner or later. Chemist G
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Quinine
Jul 15, 2005 23:01:31 GMT -5
Post by Jeff on Jul 15, 2005 23:01:31 GMT -5
I think I have half a bottle of gin laying around here somewhere....maybe it's time to put it to use. Used to be quite a martini fan, but gin and tonic it is for now.
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 0:14:37 GMT -5
Post by Hope on Jul 16, 2005 0:14:37 GMT -5
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 1:26:21 GMT -5
Post by Orion*** on Jul 16, 2005 1:26:21 GMT -5
When you go to your Dr. tell him that your having legg cramps and he will give an Rx for same. Quinine worked too good so they yanked it from the market . In the old days it was mrketed under the trade namne "Bromo-Quinine" Used for ackes pains of flue-colds etc. Its worst side effect is ringing ears.But what the hell mine ring all the time any way---Hey , serious--it does seem to work on them. It will also help relax you---legs cramps, remember? Add the gin and you will really mellow out... You won't care if you are sick or not.
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Jul 16, 2005 2:11:44 GMT -5
Post by bugged1 on Jul 16, 2005 2:11:44 GMT -5
Nope! Whole different class of drug Hope.
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 9:34:45 GMT -5
Post by Jeff on Jul 16, 2005 9:34:45 GMT -5
Seriously, if anyone knows - Is there enough quinine in tonic water to have a positive impact on this? How many ounces or bottles would equal a dose of the old medication, for instance?
These Eureka! or Duh! moments are getting too frequent. More and more things I found to be slightly helpful have a basis behind them.
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 11:05:15 GMT -5
Post by Angel on Jul 16, 2005 11:05:15 GMT -5
I remember back three years ago I drank gin and tonic with lime, maybe I will try this again. But I don't think the alcohol is good for us.
I know the brand I bought was Seagrams Extra Dry Gin---nothing else is any good for me. I always buy the best brands because I did not drink that much.
It has mint or something in it...I think.
So are you saying that if we drink tonic water---which is quinine---that it will kill these critters.
Angel
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 11:06:14 GMT -5
Post by Hope on Jul 16, 2005 11:06:14 GMT -5
Dear Jeff, I don't know how this will work for Morgellons but I found this lastnight. Dear Orion, Great idea about telling a doc you have leg cramps! Too bad we have to lie about things but it may be the only way. I must learn to improve my lying skills because I'm not so good at that. I actually grew up thinking the truth shall set you free. Not so in this life. Shame hu? Snip "Dear Toph: I can see where you're going with this. You're tossing back that fourth gin and tonic, and you're thinking, Man, I'm really marinating the old hypothalamus here. But at least I won't get malaria. Nice try, sport, but no dice. Tonic water contains less than 20 milligrams of quinine per six fluid ounces. The recommended quinine dosage for treatment of malaria is two or three 200-350 milligram tablets three times a day. If you drink the equivalent of that in gin and tonics, malaria will be the least of your problems." Snip www.straightdope.com/classics/a990813.htmlThanks for the info Chemist! You saved me lots of time and research. Peace, Hope
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 11:14:07 GMT -5
Post by Angel on Jul 16, 2005 11:14:07 GMT -5
made a mistake---it is (gin) flavored with juniper berries and it is used to treat Urinary Tract, Bladder, Kidney Problems, Prostate, Poor Digestion, Overweight, Pain, Inflammation, Rheumatism, Arthritis, Congestion, Asthma, Colds/Flu.
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 19:24:27 GMT -5
Post by dr jekyl on Jul 16, 2005 19:24:27 GMT -5
The quinine had me so bad I didnt take it today. Gonna take a lil break.
I didnt know I could still herx this bad. It was so bad Ima have to convince myself to start again.
Chemist would you mind enlightening me.... us on why you think the quinine will work?
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 19:33:57 GMT -5
Post by ANTHILL on Jul 16, 2005 19:33:57 GMT -5
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Quinine
Jul 16, 2005 19:54:26 GMT -5
Post by Lisa on Jul 16, 2005 19:54:26 GMT -5
www.rain-tree.com/sangre.htmHas anyone tried Sangre de Grado? Here are some of it's benefits: - heals wounds - kills bacteria - kills fungi - kills viruses - stops mutations - reduces inflammation - relieves itching
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Quinine
Jul 17, 2005 2:27:06 GMT -5
Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 2:27:06 GMT -5
www.rain-tree.com/sangre.htmHas anyone tried Sangre de Grado? Here are some of it's benefits: - heals wounds - kills bacteria - kills fungi - kills viruses - stops mutations - reduces inflammation - relieves itching I usually laugh at herbal remedies but this one packs enough alkaloid to kill a horse - And anything called "dragon's blood" has GOT to be good!!! I actually think it's a good choice to try Lisa! You be the guinnea pig and let us know please. Chemist G
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Quinine
Jul 17, 2005 2:31:42 GMT -5
Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 2:31:42 GMT -5
The quinine had me so bad I didnt take it today. Gonna take a lil break. I didnt know I could still herx this bad. It was so bad Ima have to convince myself to start again. Chemist would you mind enlightening me.... us on why you think the quinine will work? Well if you're herxing then it's working! quinine should definitely help with microbes attacking the red blood cells (it's an anti-malarial) and that should be a benefit to any morgs sufferers with babeseoisis causing lethargy. Beware of using too much tho - the herx is caused by the bacteria die-off and subsequent release of their toxins into your system. Too large of a herx can KILL you! So keep the level tolerable and pulse as you're doing if you need to! Be well!!! Chemist G
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