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Post by Carrie♥ on Apr 10, 2006 20:53:01 GMT -5
I don't think I have your jibberish down. I don't have asthma or eczema. No need to check your link.
Knowledge isn't power...get the knowledge, that's all you've got. The government has the power. Knowledge is personal freedom...in my personal kingdom!!!
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Post by jeff on Apr 10, 2006 21:36:04 GMT -5
[I heard that scabies pestisite drug they give you when you are diagnosed with scabies...frys the protective layer of skin...I wonder how many poeple here had scabies at first got the pesticide they hand out..and fryed the protetive layer...johnson and johnson has figured this out...we screwed and there very scared..and they are at the head of the morgellons cover up conspiricy....if i never post again..it means I was right...and was killed for figuring it out
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Post by Carrie♥ on Apr 10, 2006 22:25:25 GMT -5
Right on Jeff, good thought.
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 2:49:17 GMT -5
Well, for pity sakes, Carrie, I based my "jibberish" on just what you, alone, said..... "Asthma and eczema are all worm diseases. I don't care about a mutation in a gene...it doesn't mean anything to me...especially if they can't tell me WHY (I don't mean that like an ass I don't care, I mean like it just doens't mean much to me in my thinking, sorry, wanted to make sure ya'll know that). All my CBC's have been fine. Since the onset I've had a few eczema issues. Since I've killed the worms they've ceased. the worms cause the eczema. The worms cause asthma. What exact affect they have on our DNA and our genes that show when being analyzed I haven't a clue. I've relived my son's and the beginning of my eczema just by killing the worms. Tells me its worm related. "
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Post by Thunderations on Apr 11, 2006 3:13:11 GMT -5
Thunderations!
Jeff, I was reading some of your old posts that stated that Stenotrophomonas maltophilia is the Morgellons pathogen, and that it often comes from French bottled water. Now you are saying that Morgellons is caused by damage to the epidermis, caused by pesticides. Which is it, and what happened to Dr. Schwartz.
Thunderations
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Post by ComeClean T on Apr 11, 2006 3:23:16 GMT -5
Oh come on, you just "happened" to come across Jeff's old posts.
Give me a break. Come clean why don't cha and LOG IN
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Post by Carrie♥ on Apr 11, 2006 4:00:01 GMT -5
Neener, Neener, Neener...you can't get me !!! I said Jibberish!!! Phooey.
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 5:54:49 GMT -5
Don't you have to become a member to log in on this message board? You've got yourself, Carrie, nobody else needs to get you. You're not listening to yourself and what you've said on this thread, apparently, and that is sad. How many people think they have something like parasites, when their CBCs "prove" that they don't? Do you really not understand that? Really and seriously, do you not?
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Post by specuelatin on Apr 11, 2006 6:03:20 GMT -5
Guest,
Why do you put the word "prove" in quotes?
The outcome of a CBC means little in regard to parasitic infection and one would know this if they did any extensive reading on the matter.
I will bet that the two confirmed cases on this board, Betsy and Becky have perfect CBC's with no elevation of eosphi.. however it is spelled.
The outcome means nothing.
Again, if I misunderstand why you put the "prove" in quotes, I apologize.
spec
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 7:36:49 GMT -5
"Prove", as in, nobody can have parasites without elevated eosinophils, although allergic conditions elevate them also, and you should know if you've got allergies!!! (Like me, touching anything with dust on it, that isn't even visible, and how my skin and body reacts to it.) One can do some very easy reading on what CBCs are for and what they reveal about our states of health, which is why they're so routinely done to begin with. Better yet, ask a doctor. Better yet, get a CBC if you think you have parasites. Carrie, if you have worms, you're due a new CBC so you can be treated for them!!! Extensive research is not required on this matter, Speculatin, but if anybody would want to read about eosinophils (they'd favor themselves to read about the other white blood cells too), at least read it from a legit medical source, and not from some website promoting their parasite removal products. I'm sorry to hear that this Betsy and Becky had confirmations of parasites, but if they didn't have elevated eosinophils, that would simply defy science, so I'm sure they had to.
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Post by Thunderations on Apr 11, 2006 7:41:37 GMT -5
Thunderations!
I think "prove" was in quotation marks so the reader would "get it". That appears to be something you have a lot of difficulty with.
Thunderations!
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Post by specuelatin on Apr 11, 2006 7:45:47 GMT -5
Well Guest, I think Carrie has a very fine and discerning mind and is quite capable of finding out if what you have said here that the Eos count must be elevated in every case of parasitic infection. I also don't think she will succumb to having had the ground shaken under her feet by statements that you have made in the previous post. I'm not worried though, because shake all you like, she isn't going to be toppled. Have a great day. spec
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Post by glitterbug on Apr 11, 2006 7:47:51 GMT -5
Guest, this is a skin and soft tissue parasite which is not showing up with normal test. This parasite has been altered, as in germ warfare type. They have never seen this before and do not even know what they are looking at. Many doctors have stated this, do your research. This isn't a parasite you can get rid of with a simple worm killer. There are doctors trying everything to kill this stuff. Go talk to someone is knows this stuff before you state what worm test you think will show this. My husband had this test, it did not show it, but he passed a parasite. This has a DNA makeup that normal test do not show it is there. They have never seen this before and it's not suppose to be in us>>
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 8:15:46 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly that discernment is all that anyone needs, but Carrie's dialogue with me told me she doesn't quite understand things as they are. My thread was over her head to begin with, she keeps saying to me, so if her CBCs were all fine, as she said, herself, then she can't have worms. Or, she's developed them since her last CBC, so she needs to get a new one done, so she can get proper medical attention.
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Post by specuelatin on Apr 11, 2006 8:29:55 GMT -5
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Post by guest also on Apr 11, 2006 8:35:03 GMT -5
**"Prove", as in, nobody can have parasites without elevated eosinophils, although allergic conditions elevate them also**
Whoa, better do some research before you put inaccurate stuff out there. Eosinopils are not always elevated when parasites are present, and I have the same problem when touching dust - still my eosinophil count is very low. Simple researching will tell you this test is not always accurate.
You remind me of an ex-doctor of mine.
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Post by Phantom on Apr 11, 2006 8:39:16 GMT -5
Oh come on, you just "happened" to come across Jeff's old posts. Give me a break. Come clean why don't cha and LOG IN She can't log in, she's no longer a member. Childish you say? Yes, I'm following your lead.
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 8:55:21 GMT -5
"Whoa, better do some research before you put inaccurate stuff out there."? Beautifully said, and very humorous.
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Post by Your Momma on Apr 11, 2006 10:33:22 GMT -5
That's because "allergic conditions" are just "disturbing your parasites". Neener, Neener, Neener !
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Post by Carrie♥ on Apr 11, 2006 10:43:20 GMT -5
Spec...and others, especially the CBC masters from hell.
Obviously the doo-doo stirrers haven't been doing their homework. I don't feel like taking my time to help those whom do not want to be helped.
Didn't I just post on here that the parasites that are on the top of my list may elevate specific markers but after time they shed their own "cells" pick up our "cells" too fool and evade our defenses?
Anyway, just because I didn't take the time to expand on the thoughts regarding my CBC doesn't mean that they were perfect, or right on, in which they were not. There were off white and red and different things. Obviously not enough to alarm my PCP...it's a shame isn't it. I didn't elaborate because I don't think it is significant!!!
At the onset of the disease I was labeled with no disease that I was aware of. With in a short year after going in there screaming, begging for help now I have a list long enough to make her not look me in the eye during a visit. Nice huh.
I don't hate her anymore, I believe she doesn't have a clue. I sure wish she would have been more compassionate when I was severely ill.
What ever goals you guys are after...you're not gonna get them accomplished messin' with me. I'm not the one.
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