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Post by skytroll on Aug 24, 2005 9:25:43 GMT -5
Hello, I found this today. A new threat in the lab on MSNBC. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8715760/site/newsweek/and www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5549064/I do think there are synthetic , mirroring natural environments, NOT a REAL world to live in. Are these bioengineered? I do think this is a worm we have, and I do believe that it eats the algae blooms. I have found what looks like a worm within a worm. Just like one coming out of another. This is disturbing. It was just sitting on my arm, little black microbe-like things, seemed to opening the skin up, and then this awful mass of what looked like eggs, and then this creature with what looked like a worm crawling out either a shell, cacoon, or out another worm. This is sooooooooooooSciFi. Biotech and bioweapons, I think are working together. God help us. I don't know if this is another stage of this critter or part of it, morphing. It is sickening. Is this the war on Intelligence? Academia against the Military Industrial Complesx? I am watching c-span, base closing and these people don't look, act, or even appear to belong to this country. Am I losing it. Is the UN already running us? UN vs MIC? Or are they joining forces? There is something going on. I have been studying this for so long now, and, believe that there is something sinister going on. Evil comes in different forms. Also, scientists and medical folks are squabbling over whether Bowen Labs and Igenex are valid. It is like ticks are out there and this is the vector. Are they being dropped on us? They tried this once in South Korea back in the 50's. Our government dumped a scrub typhus vectored by bugs to kill off North Koreans, but, funny things is they ingrained themselves into the scrub and stayed there. They never infected anyone. Are these the types of things being done? If the med community is saying that Lymes is not on the rise, and yet MSU, and other universities and science for truth folks are sayiing ticks, themselves, and Lymes is on the rise, then someone and many are lying here. It looks like the government is trying to hide something here. This is out and out cruelty, are we slowly being warmed in the pot? Bowen has the new test, microscope. It will be a fight to the end, folks. However, if one is peristent enough, our faith in humanity and the truthseekers will be victorious in the end. A new earth and a new heaven is promised us. If one believes. Skytroll
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 24, 2005 9:37:52 GMT -5
I'm not a believer of the collembola. I'll admit that. I think the NPA has an agenda they were trying to fulfill with their study, and "evidence" of collembola is not the same as actually finding collembola, and ever entomologist I've talked to says these results are absolutely bogus. (I bet someone will come back with a government conspiracy involving all entomologists).
One of their researchers on the NPA study was deceased, how is that possible!?
Double-blind means the researcher does not know if they are looking at a control group or the experimental group. When this study was conducted double-blind, the researchers (same from the NPA study, same researchers) found collembola in everyone's skin. EVERYONE has collembola in their skin, even just people off the street who don't have to suffer like we do?
Mad props to Questionhair for his link to the other finding of collembola in a woman's back-- that was more feasible than that NPA study. Thank you.
I don't mean to be harsh, I just want to find a logical conclusion and not waste our time with government conspiracies/cover ups or bogus "studies."
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Post by Lisa on Aug 24, 2005 10:17:22 GMT -5
"However, if one is peristent enough, our faith in humanity and the truthseekers will be victorious in the end. A new earth and a new heaven is promised us. If one believes."
And that my friend is what keeps me in the game.
Thanks for the reminder skytroll.
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Post by skytroll on Aug 24, 2005 10:18:25 GMT -5
I do not think this is a conspiracy theory. I do think it is out and out destruction and abuse. Because we are being ignored by the CDC, who is not recognizing this disease, for some reason or another, there is something fishy here. Don't you think? We are accepting death here just like those folks in Germany and Russia did. Do you not understand what is happening here? People who live in this world of lies, of course, will diss the truth. They do not know what the truth is and never will until they get out of themselves and look at humanity in a larger picture. It is too bad that writers like Hemingway, are gone now. Even he was terrorized by the FBI. He could see the small picture, you and I, and he could see the larger humanity picture. People like us suffering with this unknown, unestablished disease, that cannot be put down as Alzheimers, Parkinson, Sarcoiditis, or whatever name they give end stages of Lymes or Morgellons. Most of these things are now proven to be caused by bacteria or parasites. The whole Pasteur paradigm is unraveling. It is full of lies, errors, even though most of his protocols have been accepted by US.. he did not have the ultimate answers in human disease. Bechamp was put under the rug. www.euroamericanhealth.comIf we do not look at disease in a more educated manner, not newest nanotechnology to treat symptoms, and still not look at the CAUSE, then we have gotten nowhere. I even think Muscular Dystrophy is a name for something very common in olden days. Sometimes we need to look back at medical history, to find the truth. Truth is a b.....ch, isn't it? We all want to follow the crowd, even if they are wrong. If we are all going down the river headed for a huge waterfall, we could be Wrong. Us morgellonites and lymites are fighting upstream. We KNOW there is a waterfall and we do not want to go there. Carnicom has proof, Bearden has proof, the real people in the 911 accident have proof. The pilot who shot down flight over PA has proof. When can you believe that some of these things are true? You cannot believe the small guy. This is where truth lies. Not in the big, bigger entities out there. We can make a difference. It is the bottom feeders who make the big takers rich, the powerful more powerful, etc. We are small but that does not mean we are insignificant. WE ARE VALID. WE HAVE THE PROOF ON OUR SKIN< INSIDE, OUTSIDE........ Skytroll Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Aug 24, 2005 10:20:03 GMT -5
Thanks Lisa
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 24, 2005 12:17:49 GMT -5
OK Skytroll I'm getting back to you on your post about another researcher who found collembola in a woman's back. The collembola research you cited: www.cdfound.to.it/html/ecto_col.htmsays "The microscopic examination of the hypodermic material obtained by scraping, revealed an adult Collembola spp. insect, eggs, cocoons of different colours, piles, a pupa, an exuvium and larvae." 1) Collembola do not have pupae, they are born like mini-adults (first instar, second instar, etc). They don't have nymphs. 2) Collembola do not have cocoons. They don't have holometabolist functions. They are hemimetabolist. 3) Collembola don't have exuvium. So, those are not collembola. Teasing it apart in the fray! Annie
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Post by Amnony Annie on Aug 24, 2005 12:20:44 GMT -5
Let me follow up, they have simple metamorphosis, they are called nymphs but are very very similar to adults, there is no "true" metamorphosis, for example, an insect would have wing buds, not wings. There's a lot of leeway here but they do not have cocoons.
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Post by skytroll on Aug 24, 2005 12:25:48 GMT -5
Collembola eat the bacteria on the skin, they have a glue like substance that holds them on the skin. If they are not collembola living there then they are microbes. Where do these come from?
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Post by questionhair on Aug 24, 2005 12:51:50 GMT -5
Anony Annie said: " . . . Mad props to Questionhair for his link to the other finding of collembola in a woman's back-- that was more feasible than that NPA study. Thank you. . . ." I don't think that was my link, unless my memory is going. I don't know what "mad props" means (is that a good thing or a bad thing?) And, it's not important, I know, but last time I checked I was a "her" ;D QH
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Post by guest on Aug 24, 2005 14:03:06 GMT -5
Anony Annie,
Thank you for searching this out...I read the link that described what was found in the Romanian woman's back. It made it sound like all those things were associated with the collembola themselves. But it didn't make sense. I was told by a parasitologist that collembola do infest people, but only superficially. They are attracted by lesions and anyone could be prone to them infesting if they are in the environment. I am of the opinion that what we are dealing with is a worm of sorts, possibly vectored in by collembola, mites, etc. That does not rule out microbes...the worms could carry those.
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 25, 2005 8:58:38 GMT -5
Hi QH-the-female, Sorry-- can't tell in online forums!!! and "mad props" is something my kids say, meaning thank you for doing something good. I think. I should run it by them before I say that again! I feel so old! ANNIE
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Post by candy on Aug 26, 2005 5:15:14 GMT -5
How does the lyme fit in to this my DR thinksit mite crossover I dont no what that mean S tAKE CARE
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 26, 2005 8:51:47 GMT -5
Collembola eat the bacteria on the skin, they have a glue like substance that holds them on the skin. If they are not collembola living there then they are microbes. Where do these come from? skytroll I *heart* the quote button! Bacteria on the skin? They may eat any decaying plant matter that is on your skin, or some eat other collembolans that are on your skin, but how would you acquire decaying plant matter on your skin? rolling around in fallen leaves? Ever since I came down with this, I certainly haven't been rolling around in anything except a bathtub of steamy water! ;D
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Post by skytroll on Aug 26, 2005 9:53:35 GMT -5
When I pick up leaves, which are numerous, from Oak trees, in the yard in the fall, I break out horribly. They live under dead leaves.
Our bodies are in a state of decay, organic. There are two trees of life. Evolutionists think we are no different than animals or plants. They are trying to prove that we are the plants too. Wala.
The real tree of life has the answers. The Natural tree of life. Pure Science is somewhere in between all this, with the understanding of what Nature really is.
Genetic alteration is not pure science. It is altered natural science.
God gave us a brain, we have misused it, or tried to put everything that is a gift, into something to benefit ourselves, only.
On this board we are trying to help each other. This is a bottom up approach, with the help of a higher power, whatever we choose to call that higher power.
There are some good scientists out there who are looking at our natural world, where the answers lie. Academia has misrepresented science and this was done as a top down approach, to dumb down the masses, to ignore any other approaches that have worked.
If our very health is being controlled by those of Evolutionaries, then we have to fight harder to understand the Natural answers, given to us. Now if genomed fungi, bacteria, and bugs are being cloned with artificial nano self-assembling entities, then we do become artificial.
Are we really here?
Are we just particles put together, like robots, or are we of a specific natural order?
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Post by Michelle on Aug 26, 2005 21:05:51 GMT -5
I'm not a believer of the collembola. I'll admit that. I think the NPA has an agenda they were trying to fulfill with their study, and "evidence" of collembola is not the same as actually finding collembola, and ever entomologist I've talked to says these results are absolutely bogus. (I bet someone will come back with a government conspiracy involving all entomologists). One of their researchers on the NPA study was deceased, how is that possible!? Double-blind means the researcher does not know if they are looking at a control group or the experimental group. When this study was conducted double-blind, the researchers (same from the NPA study, same researchers) found collembola in everyone's skin. EVERYONE has collembola in their skin, even just people off the street who don't have to suffer like we do? Mad props to Questionhair for his link to the other finding of collembola in a woman's back-- that was more feasible than that NPA study. Thank you. I don't mean to be harsh, I just want to find a logical conclusion and not waste our time with government conspiracies/cover ups or bogus "studies." You're right ANONNIE, the NPA does have an agenda---it's to get this skin condition recognized by the medical and scientific communities---to get help for people like you. They found collembola, what part of that did you not get when you read the study?--furthermore there are pictures of the collembola--so i don't know where you get this "evidence" crap,- that's hilarious. Neculai Dulceanu , DVM, PhD (deceased) passed away after the study was conducted. (conducted in 2000, published in 2004) was that really so difficult to figure out?? Does the fact that he is dead negate the NPA study? if that's the case does the fact that Albert Einstein's dead negate the theory of relativity? the NPA was a non blinded study--you need to reread it The man who was involved with the collembola on the woman's back was Neculai Dulceanu , DVM, PhD-- the same Neculai Dulceanu , DVM, PhD involved in the NPA study. Scientists have been finding collembola on humans and writing about it since the late 1800's, at least, here's one from the 40's-- www.headlice.org/swedishIf you say it's not collembola, then tell us what it is.
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Post by To Michelle on Aug 26, 2005 23:12:52 GMT -5
Here's the real puzzler. Why would Frans Janssens (who has the most information-filled web site about Collembola on the www) cite all these instances of Collembola causing dermatitis in man, then argue they aren't really a problem to man? I find this very confusing and somewhat insulting to other scientists.
I mean, you can't have it both ways. (I also remind the reader that at no time did the NPA publication state Collembola are actually parasites of man.) That means yes, they were found in skin scrapings, but that doesn't make them parasites.
Here are a few of the citations at Mr. Jannsens website where the Collembola were associated with human dermatitis.
He makes it sound as though he doesn't believe his own close Collembola associates knew what they were relating, yet all this is on his website.
Human infestations associated with dermatitis Amin, O.M. (1996:64) ?: "The closest published references to the presented case1, 2 reported springtails (Insecta: Collembola) causing pruritic dermatitis in humans; collembolans are generally regarded as saprophagous and phytophagous insects. 1. Hunter GW, Frye WW, Schwartzwelder JC, 1960. A Manual of Tropical Medicine. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders. 2. Scott HG, Wiseman JS, Stojanovich CJ. 1962. Collembola infesting man. Ann. Entomol. Soc. Am: 528-530."
Amin, O.M. (2001) Arizona: Fig.2. One of many springtails collected from scalp lesions of JH. The furca of this specimen was broken off; magnification 100x. Amin, O.M. 2001 "Scalp lesions also occur in patients with neurological symptoms and are usually associated with arthropod infestation. JH (a tall, healthy, well-nourished, middle aged white American female from Arizona) had a number of such lesions [(Fig. 4)] from which springtails (Collembola: Insecta: Arthropoda) [(Fig. 5)] were collected by myself in December, 1995. There is only two other published reports of springtails from humans (Hunter et al., 1960; Scott et al., 1962)." Note: Dr Kenneth Christiansen identified the specimen as Entomobrya albocincta: Christiansen, K. (2001:in litt.) U.S.A.: "I have been sent one of the hair infesting specimens from K.H.[sic] and it turns out to be Entomobrya albocincta. This is the first valid record from the Americas."
Amin, O.M. (2003:21,24) U.S.A.: Amin, O.M. (2004:2,7) U.S.A.: p.21(2003),2(2004): "The cutaneous aspects [of the Neurocutaneous Syndrome (NCS)] include ... lesions [that] may also be on the scalp where they may be associated with infestations of springtails (Collembola).1 " "While NCS itself is not a contagious condition, superimposed opportunistic infections on open sores may be. Initial infection with fungus or bacteria appear to attract subsequent infestations with many arthropod species, especially springtails (Collembola: Insecta). 1, 5, 6, 7 " "Black specks associated with such infections appear to be metabolic waste (fecal elements) of these organisms or mycelial masses of certain fungal species." "Arthropods identified from sores include fleas (Siphonaptera), caterpillars (Lepidoptera), wasps and ants (Hymenoptera), beetles (Coleoptera), winged flies and midges (Diptera), thrips (Thysanoptera), ticks, mites and spiders (Arachnida) and springtails (Collembola). 1,4 While springtails have close association with sores in many NCS patients, it should be emphasized that they, and other opportunistic infections represent aggravating but not causal factors of NCS sores. " p.24(2003),7(2004): "In April, 2001, LG moved to an apartment which was heavily infested with mold and mites. Lesions started appearing on LG's face which quickly became red hot as if on fire. Her legs became swollen and painfully burning. By May, 2001, LG had several open lesions (6 mm to 2 cm in diameter) accompanied by erythema, on her face and scalp. Her cheek pulsated as the facial lesions seemed to track to the chin where the most fulminating lesion was; nearest to her teeth. Springtails (Collembola) and fibers were recovered from these sites. "
Christiansen, K. (1999:in litt.) ?: "There does seem to be a reasonable record of an allergic reaction to scales of Seira domestica..."
Frye, F.L. (1996:2-7) Iowa: " ... Recently, I was contacted by an official of the National Pediculosis Society who was investigating the possibility that all members of a family that was living in Iowa and suffering from very sever and intensely pruritic mutifocal head, trunk, and pubic dermatitis were infested with parasitic collembolan (springtail) insects. " "... Routine tests and biopsies were negative for the presence of Herpesviral dermatitis, mite infestation (scabies), and head- and bodylouse infestation (pediculosis). However, the white nit-like objects that adhered to individual head hairs probably were the eggs of headlice. Some skin biopsies revealed the presence of arthropod insects that were characterized as collembolas. Because of their similar small size, it is unlikely that the springtails used the headlice as phoretic transport vehicles to move between hosts. Therefore, it appears that some patients were simultaneously infested with both springtails and headlice. A literature search revealed an expanding source of information that documents that springtails have become true parasites of a variety of animal hosts even though they lack specialized feeding structures. Once the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia began to investigate pruritic dermatitis of unknown pathogenicity, they found 123 cases. " "... Whether the immune status of the affected individuals played a major role in promoting springtail parasitism or whether insecticide resistance was a component in these cases is entirely conjectural; however, both factors have been suggested as possibilities. " "... To the date of this writing, the taxa that have been reported to induce intense pruritic dermatitis in man are: Entomobryo nivalis and E. tenuicauda (Hunter, et al, 1960; Scott, et al, 1962); Hypogastrura manubrialis and Sira buski (Megnin, 1839[sic]; Freche and Beille, 1896). In addition, Orchesella albosa var. ainslieri was recorded infesting humans without causing pruritis (Scott, et al, 1962). In summary, these cases of collemboliasis may be only medical curiousities, or they may be the first 'sentinel' instances of a significant emerging parasitism."
Hunter, G.W., Frye, W.W. & Schwartzwelder, J.C. (1960) cited from Scott, H.G., Wiseman, J.S. & Stojanovich, C.J. (1962:430) Nearctic: "Entomobrya nivalis (cosmopolitan) and Entomobrya tenuicauda (Australasian) have been reported as causing a pruritic dermatitis in man."
Mackie, T.T., Hunter, G.W. & Brooke Worth, C. (1945:541-542) Australia: "The Collembola are primarily phytophagous and are not usually thought of as medically important insects. Two Australian species, however, Entomobrya multifasciata Tullb. and E. tenuicauda Schött have recently been recorded as attacking man, the patients complaining of a sharp, biting sensation followed by irritation and papules similar to mosquito bites, with pruritus." Cited from Scott, H.G., Wiseman, J.S. & Stojanovich, C.J. (1962:430): "Entomobrya nivalis (cosmopolitan) and Entomobrya tenuicauda (Australasian) have been reported as causing a pruritic dermatitis in man." Cited from Ebeling, W. (1975): "They [Collembola] have never been incriminated in the transmission of any human disease, but Entomobrya nivalis L., a cosmopolitan species, has been reported to cause an itching type of dermatitis in man, ..." See also the original publication of Pescott (1942). See also the revision of Pescott's specimens of E. tenuicauda by Greenslade (1995).
Mégnin, J.P. (1878) cited from Handschin, E. in Schulze, P. (1926:45) Nearctic: "Es handelt sich um den Megninschen Podurhippus pityriasicus (= Hypogastrura manubrialis Tullb.), der auf den Wunden eines schlecht gehaltenen Gaules in Menge angetroffen wurde" Cited from van den Bruel, W.E. (1945:34-35) : "MEGNIN a observé en 1878 des quantités innombrables de Collemboles vivant dans les produits de sécrétion épidermique de plusieurs chevaux d'une meme écurie affectés d'un pityriasis général et chronique. L'espèce en question, décrite comme nouvelle sous le nom de Podurhippus pityriasicus, a été ramenée en synonymie avec Hypogastrura manubrialis TULLB." Cited from Scott, H.G., Wiseman, J.S. & Stojanovich, C.J. (1962:430): "... species of Nearctic Collembola ... reported intimiately associated with man (only earliest reference given): Hypogastrura manubrialis (Tullberg, 1869) by Mégnin 1839[sic] 1 1 Under another name." Cited from Bellinger (1999:in litt.): "Mégnin (1878) proposes Podurhippus pityriasicus for a springtail found in sores on skin of horses. The species is certainly a Hypogastrura." Note: It is possible that people that work with horses are troubled by Collembola that live in the stables and feed on hyphen of fungi. Fungal infections of the horse's skin/hair could eventually also infect the skin/hair of the workers. Anyway, in this case, the springtail is actually 'parasiting' the fungus and not man. Alternitavely, the Collembola were possibly atrackted to the fluids produced by the wound. Hypogastrura has sucking mouthparts.
Mertens, J. in Christiansen, K. (1998 in 2001:in litt.) Belgium: " Several years ago our Faculty of Medicine once offered me 'strange small insects', which were considered as being responsible for causing allergic reactions on the skin of a woman. Those insects were Seira domestica. I could prove that the scales of Seira on the cushioned seats caused the allergy. As you know, Lepidocyrtus, has scales too. " Mertens, J. (2004:in litt.) Belgium: "In 1976 (or 1977), our Faculty of Medicine was puzzled by a rare case of skin allergy in a woman, living near Ghent. The allergy was caused by the scales of Seira domestica on a cushion of a rotan chair. Whenever the woman used the rotan chair, the allergic skin response occured (and only then). The chair was located in the veranda, which was quite moisty and where the temperature was enjoyable. It turned out that the hollow rotan branches of the chair hosted a population of Seira domestica. During the night, they left their hiding place and crawled all over the chair. The cushion collected many of the lost scales, causing as such the allergic reaction."
Pescott, R.T.M. (1942:68-69) Australia: "In 1939, specimens of springtails were received from a Melbourne specialist who stated that they were causing skin troubles on a female patient. The insect in question was the species Entomobrya multifasciata Tull., a European species originally described in 1871, but which is now cosmopolitan in its distribution. Womersley (3) records it as being common in cultivated areas in the Australian States. The symptoms of this case were as follows : the patient experienced a sharp biting sensation, followed by intolerable itching. There were few marks on the body with an occasional excoriated papule, while the irritation was distributed fairly generally over the trunk and limbs, but was most marked around the waist. Several specimens of the insect responsible for the condition were found on the patient's body. She received no active treatment, but her clothes and bedclothes were sterilised and this was sufficient to destroy the insect and thereby remove the irritation. On considering the origin of this infection, it appeared that the patient had recently moved into a new house where the garden was in the process of being made. The insects had apparently migrated to the patient when the grass, weeds and soil outside were disturbed." "In 1941, specimens of another springtail were received from a military hospital in Victoria, where skin irritations were occuring among the nursing staff. The species concerned was Entomobrya tenuicauda Schott., a native insect originally described in 1917 from Queensland, later recorded by Womersley (3) from Western Australia and Tasmania, and now from Victoria. In this instance, the presence of the insect produced on several nurses raised lumps very similar to mosquito bites, and which later were very irritable. In one instance there was also a good deal of reddening of the calf of the leg. These conditions lasted for somewhat less than twenty-four hours in each case, but reoccurred the next day, probably from more 'bites'. On analysing this case, it appears certain that the insects were introduced into the hospital with flowers, and from there moved on the affected nurses during their normal routine duties." "3. Womersley, H. : Primitive Insects of South Australia, Gov. Printer, Adelaide, 1939." Womersley suggested that the easily detached, long ciliated hairs of Entomobrya species undoubtedly would cause skin irritations. Pescott concludes that severe skin irritation can be caused by certain species of Collembola: "Typical symptoms are a biting sensation, followed by intense irritation and the production of small pimple-like bodies." See also the revision of Pescott's specimens of E. tenuicauda by Greenslade (1995).
Scott, H.G. (1966) cited from Ebeling, W. (1975) ?: "Springtails crawling or hopping on the skin may cause itching, and when crushed on the skin, they may cause a mild, localized, allergic response. (Scott et al., 1962; Scott, 1966c)."
Delusional human infestations Altschuler, D.Z. et al. (2004:87-95) U.S.A.: "Twenty individuals diagnosed with delusory parasitosis participated in a single site clinical study under the auspices of the National Pediculosis Association (NPA) and the Oklahoma State Department of Health. The objective of this study was to determine if there were any common factors in skin scrapings collected from this population. These individuals, whose symptoms were originally attributed to lice or scabies, were part of a larger group reporting symptoms of stinging/biting and/or crawling to the NPA. Multiple skin scrapings from each person were microscopically examined. Any and all fields of view that appeared incongruous to normal human skin were digitally photographed. When the photographic images were initially evaluated, no common factor was identified. However, more extensive scrutiny using imaging software revealed evidence of Collembola in 18 of the 20 participants." "The images were reviewed by entomologists and the presence of Collembola verified and identified as representative of the families Isotomidae and Entomobryidae." "It is possible Collembola found in lesions are opportunistic and that fungal infections or allergic reactions to pollen, fungi, spores or other organisms may contribute to or be responsible for the symptoms these individuals experience." "Collembola do not need to be human parasites in order to be present in the skin scrapings." Note: The in the study participating entomologists have identified the Collembola based only on the digitally enhanced images of the skin scrapings; no specimens have been deposited in collection for further reference. All the images presented in the paper, except the enhanced version of figure 2, do not appear to be from living or recently dead specimens or body parts broken off such but specimens in advanced states of decay. Comparing the images with Collembola from Canadian and Burmese Cretaceous amber where much decay had occurred in many specimens, as well as with thousands of pitfall trap specimens in various states of decay, it is obvious with some security that the specimens shown in the photographs, if they are Collembola, are badly decayed. Therefore, since the specimens were freshly taken from new scrapings, "The finding of images from 18 of the 20 symptomatic study participants supports their contention that they have something crawling on or under their skin." is not supported, unless the other pictures are far better. Under the assumption that the best pictures were chosen for the article, this seems highly unlikely. If Collembola were crawling then the specimens should be part of living specimens. It may well be evidence that at past times Collembola were involved in a crawling sensation, such as caused by allergic reactions as described by Pescott (1942:68-69). The authors should provide a skin sample including a collembolan specimen to prove their point. The case is considered unproven unless an animal is provided.
Barclay, L. (2004) U.S.A. "In [the] single-site clinical study conducted by the NPA and the Oklahoma State Department of Health, multiple skin scrapings from each of 20 individuals diagnosed with delusory parasitosis were examined microscopically. The subjects were part of a larger group of more than 1,500 persons reporting symptoms of stinging, biting, and/or crawling to the NPA, and their symptoms were originally attributed to lice or scabies. There were more than 300 anomalous findings in skin scrapings from the 20 subjects and none in the controls. These anomalies included pollen, spores, hyphae, mycelium, algae, and what appeared to be insect eggs, larvae, or embryos. Although digital photography of any and all fields of view that appeared incongruous to normal human skin initially revealed no common factor, more extensive examination using imaging software revealed evidence of Collembola in 18 of the 20 subjects." Note: The case is considered unproven unless an animal is provided. See note on Altschuler et al., 2004.
Benecke, M (2004) Germany: "Im vergangenen Jahr nun nahm der Fall des Randy Yaskal eine überraschende Wendung, als Hautschuppen von ihm und einigen seiner Leidensgenossen zum Staatlichen Gesundheitsamt in Oklahoma sowie zum Naturkundemuseum in New York gelangten. Dort entsannen sich die Medizinerin Deborah Altschuler und der Insektenkundler Louis Sorkin einiger Versuche des verstorbenen rumánischen Veterinár-Parasitologen Neculai Dulceanu. Der hatte schon mehrfach in der Haut vermeintlich psychisch Kranker winzige Insekten gefunden. So entdeckte man in der Haut einer 80-jáhrigen Frau alle Entwicklungsstadien (Eier, Puppen, erwachsene Tiere) von Collembolen (Springschwánzen). Die flügellosen Insekten haben es gern warm und feucht. Die Wissenschaftler wollten es nun genauer wissen. Sie baten zwanzig Freiwillige, die als uneinsichtig-verbohrte Insektenwahn-Patienten galten, aber weder an Láusen noch an Krátze litten, zur Hautprobe. Und die Beobachtungen des Rumánen bestátigten sich: Bei 18 der 20 untersuchten Patienten lebten tatsáchlich Collembolen (wieder in allen Entwicklungsstadien) in und unter der Haut. Sind die Springschwánze Ursache des Juckens und Stechens? Hat der angebliche Wahn also eine reale Ursache? Franz[sic] Jannssens[sic] von der Universitát Antwerpen hatte schon vor Jahren das Wissen über menschennah auftretende Springschwánze zusammengetragen und ermittelt, dass die Tierchen sehr háufig Gáste in menschlichen Behausungen sind. Auf manchen Duschvorhángen bilden sie einen echten Collembolen-Teppich; oder sie wandern zu Tausenden in Wohnungen ein, wenn es ihnen draußen zu ungemütlich wird. Dennoch krabbeln sie nicht jedem unter die Haut. Das US-Forscherteam vermutet, dass die Haut der Befallenen schon vorher durch Pilze, Sporen, Pollen oder andere Allergene angegriffen ist. Die Springschwánze nisten sich dann in bereits bestehende Wunden ein." Note: The case described by Neculai Dulceanu is regarded as a sample contamination. See note on Terinte et al., 1998?. The case described by Deborah Altschuler is considered unproven unless an animal is provided. See note on Altschuler et al., 2004.
Christian, E. in Christiansen (1998 in 2001:in litt.) Germany & Austria: "... [This] reminds me of several similar cases in Germany and Austria which turned out to be symptoms of what psychiatrists call 'Dermatozoenwahn' (delusional dermatozoonosis). This serious paranoid psychosis needs medical treatment, but patients usually refrain from visiting a competent doctor. They rather consult the parasitologist or (quite frequently) the entomologist, being often well-informed about their illusive parasites. ..." "A wealth of medical litterature is available on this topic, but entomologists have not fully realized the problem as yet. I am confronted with two or three cases each year, because Collembola are among the frequently fancied plagues."
Anyway, all this and much more at Janssens' website. Makes me think of double-speak.
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Post by JokersWild on Aug 26, 2005 23:50:03 GMT -5
"Neculai Dulceanu , DVM, PhD"
.... so he was Veterinarian...?
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Post by Michelle on Aug 27, 2005 1:02:30 GMT -5
"Neculai Dulceanu , DVM, PhD" .... so he was Veterinarian...? Deborah Z. Altschuler-----NPA Michael Crutcher, MD, MPH, FACPM, Neculai Dulceanu, DVM, PhD (deceased), Beth A. Cervantes,------NPA Cristina Terinte, MD, PhD, and Louis N. Sorkin, BCE Seems like a well rounded group of individuals to me. It's a good thing they had a veterinarian, they know a lot more about parasites then doctors.
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Post by JokersWild on Aug 27, 2005 1:57:16 GMT -5
Ah..... Michelle,
Deborah Z. Altschuler-----NPA Michael Crutcher, MD, MPH, FACPM, Neculai Dulceanu, DVM, PhD (deceased), Beth A. Cervantes,------NPA Cristina Terinte, MD, PhD, and Louis N. Sorkin, BCE yeah... nice letters after those names. But I read so many scientific reports these days (I'll admit most of them are generated within the 'Western' realm) and I can't find a one that has a Vet as the lead scientist.
Don't know where you are from, but here in the U.S. we tend to use more like 'human' doctors (this helps the credibility factor immensely) for the scientific studies. I'm not running down Vet's; I think they are a huge asset to the community... it's exactly where I go when my puppy is sick.
Back to the 'letters' - I'm guessing the 'NPA' is for the National Pediculosis Association. And that 'BCE' thing; I'm confused on this one... is that someone that passes the Veterinary Entomology Specialty Exam..?
So we've got two Vet's, two NPA's and two M.D.'s.... yeah, "well rounded".... that's a good way to put it.
Something else that bothers me.... why was a study done in 1999 finally published in 2004..? I've never understood why that took so long... You seem to be "in the know" so what was it; translation issues..?
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Post by To Jokerswild on Aug 27, 2005 9:24:26 GMT -5
Study was in mid-2000.
Sibmitted and approved for publication 2003
Published 2004.
P.S.
I asked Dr. Crutcher, Oklahoma City, why it took so long to be published.
He said sometimes it takes ten years to get scientific or medical papers published. Still, it seemed a long time to those who suffer.
Hope this helps.
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